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What is painfully obvious is that both these Profile Logical systems, from the Chart Art Gurus on this this thread, are subjective systems in the guise of objectivity. This is why sincere, intelligent folks are unable to place these programs into action. The system appears to rely on a made up languagewith multiple layered rules that are written in such a way to create dependence on the creator for interpretation. It isa manipulative and somewhat clever writing style that permits every move of the market to be interpreted in a system positive manner.

Of course this is my opinion and I remain open to objective proof of succesful implementation of either the market profile based program or Jack Hershey approach.

Regards,

Surf

And after reading this post is is painfully obvious why you can't and couldn't find a job as a respectful journalist, hense the label . . . hack.

Proof is only an arms length away but like your penis you couldn't find it with both hands.
 
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FWIW, for several reasons I doubt "psyclesurfer" is famous original Surf. I suspect it's an impersonator/wannabe looking for attention by pretending to be Surf.

Neither but no one in their right mind would "wannabe" surf.
 
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( 1) Grammar, usage and style are wrong (subtly, but wrong).
( 2) If it's Surf, why haven't the mods killed the account by now?
( 3) Why would a Surf (alias) label himself "Surf", thus inviting ( 2)?

1. Grammer software is a match.
1 a. Also a match with soyericson.
2. Baron has no intention of deminishing page views.
3. see 2.
 
Quote from psyclesurfer:

What is painfully obvious is that both these Profile Logical systems, from the Chart Art Gurus on this this thread, are subjective systems in the guise of objectivity. This is why sincere, intelligent folks are unable to place these programs into action. The system appears to rely on a made up languagewith multiple layered rules that are written in such a way to create dependence on the creator for interpretation. It isa manipulative and somewhat clever writing style that permits every move of the market to be interpreted in a system positive manner

Of course this is my opinion and I remain open to objective proof of succesful implementation of either the market profile based program or Jack Hershey approach.

Regards,

Surf

Luv the humor.

There are no rules.

The people who do the trading as applications of PEP, have gone through a process called building the mind. Each mind becomes differentiated by doing drills using the operators of the mind that are used to drive a car or if younger ride a bike. spatial, shape and movement.

Subjectivity is the bailywick of induction. Se how Lo acquires data.

The building the mind is done using the results of deduction dwon to the granularity of the markets.

The reason intelligent usrs of induction cannot build thier minds to use the applications is because ther is little overlap of induction and deduction. Minds can get built one way or the other but not usually both ways. When it is possible to operate both ways it issimply because the person is consciously ware of each and just which is at play.

English is the language used primarily. There is a set of words involved in the language. They may be unfamiliar to people who limit their vocabularies. This is a choice. If you are joining the military you use a military vocabulary. For biology and bird watching there are specialized words for bio's and birds. There is a little black bird that looks like a small cardinal in arizona. Amazingly these guys have a two word name which is from the hispanic world since the bird feeders they prefer are from Mexico. They are not OCD about their bird feed in Tucson which Senator McCain spells Tuscon in his documents.

We use pt 1, 2, and 3 and FTT to describe a trend parallelogram. FTT is hard to use because it has no vowel. We admit it. Maybe FATOTA is better and more explicit. But it could be confusing as the sylables FAT OTA which might be a fat of tail statistical term.

Multi layered we are not. we are nested fractal in a fixed ratio so that gives away the candy store to quants who know what coding loops is.

We speak of the long diagonal on short BBT's. But we do hand out code rings to grammar school students.

There is a God knows sentence above. Passing it forward is how it works. Those who learn use the medical approach. See one, Do one, Teach one. Hub does the same for the same reason. He feels teaching other his stuff helps the teacher get it. The medical model does too. Take sawing legs off. Dr's all use the same kind of circular saw blades and AC motors in their saws. Using a square blade has been determined to make rough cuts and larger leg irons are needed. More cauterizing with blow torches lengthens the surgery as well.

See one Do one Teach one. you are at the heirogliphics stage. No one can do gliphs. and clay causes dust in computer mother boards. There are no cuniform based keyboards any more.

It is claimed by the observer:

"It isa manipulative and somewhat clever writing style that permits every move of the market to be interpreted in a system positive manner."

We do not interpret. intrapret ..yes... we use a dab of biology and nest fractals. It is like the Russians nest peasants who have tops and bottoms. Another way of saying that sentece is: There is one market pattern that has three parts that occur on the same order always.

CW does: up down; up down; up down. They lose.

MADA does: up down up; down up down. We win in three part trends.

In terms of dominace we do dom non dom dom; dom non dom dom.

What is CW doing? bighog said it all: he had six whipsaws on a no BO day. WE had 6 BO's that occrred in two patterns of three parts each. For him the 6 1/2 point range said the day was whipsaw. WE saw three nested fractals in a fixed ratio doing three part patterns where the dominance was as stated.

Last element. This open minded person just wants proof that he deems is proof. Let me know what the delusional level is on your performance scale. Use the dictionary definition of performance: It may have a first derivative connotation with respect to time. I may be able to give you a reference to past prints that third parties have used in their evaluations. Right now there are only direct witness people's names and phone numbers in firms that occupy multiple floors in Chicago where the trading floors are located. It appears that what you are looking for has been done and done to the satisfaction of others.
 
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So you are saying its all subjective??
 
Gotcha!

That's NOT the post you made at 1:35. This is (below).

You called it a POSSIBLE short which is conveniently missing from the post at your link. Had your "trade" not worked out, you probably would have said you didn't take it.

A few more points.

I see you made that call based on a lower low and a lower high. Where's all the Hershey gobbledygook?

Also, there was a big brouhaha in that thread about phony calls and yours were questioned. You also posted another "trade" way after the fact. And even your defender questioned if you were using real money or sim.

Why don't you call a full day's trades in a real time chat room so we can see you apply the Hershey "method" at the hard right edge of the chart instead of in hindsight? Answer: will never happen because you can't do it.


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Gotcha!

That's NOT the post you made at 1:35. This is (below).



Why don't you call a full day's trades in a real time chat room so we can see you apply the Hershey "method" at the hard right edge of the chart instead of in hindsight? Answer: will never happen because you can't do it.


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Nice catch. Truly unreal the delusions in this business.

The way any of this material is written makes it clear any conclusion can be reached, market moves up, they win, market drops they win. all while the students lose again and again and dont understand why. truly sad.
 
Yeah... here's the week ahead as seen through the eyes of a Hershey "trader":


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ok here you go. the week ahead
 

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