Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman

Quote from Lucrum:

No dimwit, because then I can't see when you're on line.
Can you remember that?
Since you think I'm gay and since you are repulsed by gays, judging by your many derogatory posts on the subject, why do you need to know when I'm on line so you can follow me around? Why do you find my alleged gayness both so repulsive and yet so compelling at the same time? I think you need to think things through. And then maybe find someone (else) to share your feelings.
 
Quote from Brass:

...why do you need to know when I'm on line so you can follow me around?

I like to know when the regulars are online, we've been trough this before.
Try to keep up will you.
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

Let's take a look at the timeline of the evening:

7:09 – GZ calls 911 to report TM’s activity in the gated community.
7:11 – GZ reports that TM runs away and starts chasing him on foot.
7:12 – TM calls girlfriend (or possibly GF calls TM) and tells her about GZ chasing him and that he lost him (according to girlfriend).
7:13 – GZ ends 911 call with clear indication that he is not planning to wait police at the mail boxes.
7:16 – TM’s call to girlfriend ends on TM saying GZ is behind him again followed by an altercation (according to GF).
7:16 – First 911 call from 1st ear witness of the struggle.
7:16 – First 911 call from 1st eyewitness of part of the struggle reporting for for man in white (TM) being on top of man in red (GZ).
7:16 (about) – A 14yo kid walking his dog sees the fight with 1 man on the ground another one on top but like the other eyewitness he wouldn’t see the whole fight.
7:17 – Police arrives in the gated community.
7:17 to 7:18 – 4 911 calls reporting gunshot.
7:19 – Last 911 call from the 14yo witness and his little sister.

The "chasing him" parts are completely made up. At this point I hope Zimmerman gets off Scot free just to chap your ass. You'll never have any credibility here in P&R ever again.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

The "chasing him" parts are completely made up. At this point I hope Zimmerman gets off Scot free just to chap your ass. You'll never have any credibility here in P&R ever again.

So the 911 call transcript of George Zimmerman getting out of his car and out of breath as he hustled to follow Trayvon Martin does not mean anything to you. Can you tell me how this is not "chasing him".
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

So the 911 call transcript of George Zimmerman getting out of his car and out of breath as he hustled to follow Trayvon Martin does not mean anything to you. Can you tell me how this is not "chasing him".

Zimmerman related repeatedly that he lost sight of Martin and then walked out to the street corner to determine his location. Then he began walking back towards his vehicle to leave. Martin popped out of his hiding spot and confronted Zimmerman who reached for his cellphone to call police when he was belted in the face breaking his nose.

You refuse to acknowledge Zimmerman's statement which was repeated by his father last night when he was interviewed. His brother also related this and and an eyewitness confirmed it.

I already know that you are going to prevaricate and distort no matter what the facts or evidence say. I've come to regard you as a child and will be treating you like one permanently.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

Zimmerman related repeatedly that he lost sight of Martin and then walked out to the street corner to determine his location. Then he began walking back towards his vehicle to leave. Martin popped out of his hiding spot and confronted Zimmerman who reached for his cellphone to call police when he was belted in the face breaking his nose.

You refuse to acknowledge Zimmerman's statement which was repeated by his father last night when he was interviewed. His brother also related this and and an eyewitness confirmed it.

I already know that you are going to prevaricate and distort no matter what the facts or evidence say. I've come to regard you as a child and will be treating you like one permanently.

Are you claiming an eyewitness saw how the phyical confrontation started? This is not true. If you believe it is then please post the citation (I asked this many times now).

The only eyewitnesses (2) who saw the confrontation viewed it after it started. They were drawn by screaming and apparently saw Martin on top of Zimmerman on the grass in the yard more than 15 feet from the sidewalk.

Zimmerman admitted that a verbal altercation occured prior any physical contact. Martin did not simply jump out of the bushes and surprise Zimmerman by belting him with out a prior verbal altercation.
 
Map of the incident with the most likely paths of both parties based on the information that we have at this time. Also see alternative suggestion on Zimmerman's path after the map .

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Martin's body was found in the grass in the yard to the left (and slightly above) of the last black arrow. More than 15 feet from the sidewalk.

The only other alternative is that Zimmerman followed the same path of Trayvon, but this does not match up with his description to police of where he entered the sidewalk from.

Of course I am open to updating this interpretation as new and clear facts are released in the case.
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

Map of the incident with the most likely paths of both parties based on the information that we have at this time. Also see alternative suggestion on Zimmerman's path after the map .

Martin's body was found in the grass in the yard to the left (and slightly above) of the last black arrow. More than 15 feet from the sidewalk.

The only other alternative is that Zimmerman followed the same path of Trayvon, but this does not match up with his description to police of where he entered the sidewalk from.

Of course I am open to updating this interpretation as new and clear facts are released in the case.

As I said, I know I'm wasting my time but I have a few minutes free.

Zimmerman's account is that Martin just showed up and said "Do you have a fucking problem?" and that he (GZ) said "no" and reached for his cellphone and was slammed in the face. Zimmerman said that Martin jumped on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk. Zimmerman said that he tried to move his head onto the grass so that he would not be killed but that move exposed his gun. When Martin saw the gun he said "You are going to die now" or "You are going to die today" and Zimmerman decided to shoot Martin which he did from the ground. That suggests Zimmerman had a round chambered and the safety on which is not the way I would carry a gun but there it is.

Of course, Zimmerman's dad, brother and friend are all just relating Zimmerman's version of events. The adult eyewitness did see Martin on top of Zimmerman and smashing his head onto the concrete.

I don't expect you to believe the eyewitness, the police or the paramedics but don't expect there to be an arrest as there simply isn't any cause that the police can use to arrest Zimmerman.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

As I said, I know I'm wasting my time but I have a few minutes free.

Zimmerman's account is that Martin just showed up and said "Do you have a fucking problem?" and that he (GZ) said "no" and reached for his cellphone and was slammed in the face. Zimmeran said that Martin jumped on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk. Zimmerman said that he tried to move his head onto the grass so that he would be killed but that move exposed his gun. When Martin saw the gun he said "You are going to die now" or "You are going to die today" and Zimmerman decided to shoot Martin which he did from the ground. That suggests Zimmerman had a round chambered and the safety on which is not the way I would carry a gun but there it is.

Of course, Zimmerman's dad, brother and friend are all just relating Zimmermans version of events. The adult eyewitness did see Martin on top of Zimmerman and smashing his head onto the concrete.

I don't expect you to believe the eyewitness, the police or the paramedics but don't expect there to be an arrest as there simply isn't any cause that the police can use to arrest Zimmerman.

The only adult eyewitness is 'John'. 'John' was on CNN last night and once again stated the struggle occurred on the grass in a yard and not near a sidewalk.

Clip of the witness from Anderson Cooper show on CNN. Statements about location being on grass near 2:32 mark.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/us/2012/03/30/ac-bts-eyewitness-martin-killing.cnn
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

The only adult eyewitness is 'John'. 'John' was on CNN last night and once again stated the struggle occurred on the grass in a yard and not near a sidewalk.

Clip of the witness from Anderson Cooper show on CNN. Statements about location being on grass near 2:32 mark.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/us/2012/03/30/ac-bts-eyewitness-martin-killing.cnn

He said that Zimmerman's body was on the grass but his head was initially on the sidewalk and that he moved his head onto the grass towards the end of the struggle.

There won't be an arrest so you should prepare yourself. I know you badly want to see Zimmerman punished but it sure looks like a lawful self-defense shooting. All the hand wringing and teeth gnashing in the world won't change that.

For your version to hold up Zimmerman, the police, the eyewitnesses, the paramedics, and a medical doctor must all be lying. What seems more likely?
 
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