Trading with a Stop Loss in the Futures Market is for Losers
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Lol, everyone trades with stops, some just call them margin calls.
I've been telling you clowns to get massively long for soo long now!!!!
Of course you should always be long 10 ES, NO STOP!!!!
The trend is soo obvious, why get stopped out!!!!
only 1 time will calling the top work out....the rest, losers!!!!
so stare at the screen for 100 hours, take 100 trades, biggest winner 0.50 and biggest loser 2 points.....lol.
NO STOP......do you want to make money or not!!!!
Of course you should always be long 10 ES, NO STOP!!!!
The trend is soo obvious, why get stopped out!!!!
only 1 time will calling the top work out....the rest, losers!!!!
so stare at the screen for 100 hours, take 100 trades, biggest winner 0.50 and biggest loser 2 points.....lol.
NO STOP......do you want to make money or not!!!!
Well, "small investors" being day traders trying to flip the market for a tic - sure the HFTs are going to bleed them. Naturally. And they are trading small accounts and can't take any heat. They trade for a tic and then puke when a position goes against them ten tics. So what - that's been going on since the advent of day trading and before HFTs became such a dominant force.
But HFTs are of no concern to any small investor who trades for more than small increments in the markets. None. If a small investor stays with a position for a few hours - how does an HFT prey upon them ?
But HFTs are of no concern to any small investor who trades for more than small increments in the markets. None. If a small investor stays with a position for a few hours - how does an HFT prey upon them ?
Wall Street does NOT make money in forecasts....
because they know it doesn't work well.
they sell products to institutions, or create HFT machines to grab an edge with little risk (relative). they do not scan for H&S formations or pivot stuff.....this would be dumb.
smart people figured out you don't stare at the screen all day and guess.....you create ways to destroy the weak, dumb, and poor.
because they know it doesn't work well.
they sell products to institutions, or create HFT machines to grab an edge with little risk (relative). they do not scan for H&S formations or pivot stuff.....this would be dumb.
smart people figured out you don't stare at the screen all day and guess.....you create ways to destroy the weak, dumb, and poor.
Sad but true 
Most of the small traders fail when they are trading in the forex market because of their small funds which does not have the capability to hold the account during drawdowns and hence they lose more and more money to the forex market.
But there are ways to minimize this for the small traders by implementing proper money and risk management so that they are at the profit edge.
Most of the small traders fail when they are trading in the forex market because of their small funds which does not have the capability to hold the account during drawdowns and hence they lose more and more money to the forex market. But there are ways to minimize this for the small traders by implementing proper money and risk management so that they are at the profit edge.
Very peculiar discussion about stops, considering everyone has a stop whether they choose to admit it or not.
A more apt discussion about stops would be between, narrow, wide, hedging, mental, reducing, etc. but having them vs not having is not exactly rational, as we all got them, no exception.
A more apt discussion about stops would be between, narrow, wide, hedging, mental, reducing, etc. but having them vs not having is not exactly rational, as we all got them, no exception.
Sure, if you have a one- or two-tick stop you're surely gonna get stopped out, but then you're a fool in the first place, even in absence of HFTs.
So if I have a, say 20-tick stop, can you explain to me exactly how one single HFT player can possibly move ES that much? I'm very curious to hear.
And if someone would be able to influence prices that much, it has nothing to do with being an HFT - anyone with sufficient size would be able to, essentially making Soros or Buffett villains of equal magnitude.
So if I have a, say 20-tick stop, can you explain to me exactly how one single HFT player can possibly move ES that much? I'm very curious to hear.
And if someone would be able to influence prices that much, it has nothing to do with being an HFT - anyone with sufficient size would be able to, essentially making Soros or Buffett villains of equal magnitude.