Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins

hi LS, thanks ... I had joined awhile back, have gotten several of their supplements recently , but didn't know where to look for 3rd party tests of the purity of their products, so I also take GNC ones too...

good to hear you've had positive experience with them ...

my favorites:

-le mix
-milk thistle (for liver)
-epa fish oil (heart)
-alpha lipoic acid + selenium (antioxidants)

and from gnc,
-mega b 100/ niacin (heart)

others you like?

now I'm just trying to get myself psyched up to learn to like the japanese food (which normally I don't like), that my wife, who's from japan, wants to cook all the time...

i remember a recent study they did, eg japanese men, and tested lifespans, it went down dramatically once they left japan (japan only type fish/nori diet) and moved here to hawaii (mixed japan/local diet) and to mainland usa (typical mostly usa diet)..
will try to find it online, called something like the hawaii study or whatever...

so, as I turn 40 next january (sigh), gotta keep on the right track w/diet and exercise...

weight lifting is still kind of fun, but being a hamster on a treadmill, is not lol..


appreciate it...

ken
 
Quote from LongShot:

Ken, i have ordered all my supps from lef.org for 15 yrs. i have been tempted in past to order elsewhere because of cheaper prices but i never do, they're quality control is the best. you get what you pay for and i want the purity when taking "mega" doses over long periods. lef.org is the real deal -pharmaceutical grade. life extension is their purpose, i recommend them.
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Hey, thanks for the tip! Always on the lookout for good sources for low carb products:

http://www.lef.org/newshop/cgi-shop/searchItems.cgi?keyword=lo+carb&select=name

http://www.lef.org/newshop/cgi-shop/searchItems.cgi?keyword=low+carb&select=name&submit=Search

You should order this for yourself: SMART GUIDE TO LOW CARB COOKING http://www.lef.org/newshop/cgi-shop...c=complete&catalog_number=33529&Submit=Search
 
hey thx, will check it out re low-carb...

agree that low-carb low-protein is likely the best way to go, eg 18g protein/day max ...

easy to remember health slogan: "eat less, move more"

my heart doctor said it's good to limit white rice, bread, potatoes, sugar... more fruits/veggies etc.. so trying that..

LS, do you know any links of 3rd party evaluations of lef.org purity? I totally agree with you that, if you're going to be taking something for a long time, trusting your health with it, it's important that it be checked by a 3rd party, so we're getting the best grade supplements possible... they look to be legit, i like that they have doctors on staff ...


ken
 
I'm down about 8 lbs. From 210 to 202. This is the second time around for the induction stage of Atkins. We had several gatherings on Saturday, so wasn't strict. Had to be polite and all that. But I didn't have desert, and just sipped at some home brew. The bread was too good to pass up.

What was neat was that I had the ability to limit my portions of lasagna. That's where this Atkins diet seems to be helping me, is in realizing how much breads and pasta I eat. TONS. I love bread. So many snacks are carbs.

My goal was 190. I may shoot for 180, realizing that I'll gain some back as I again eat like I like, but trying to do so in moderation. Another plus is that I've lost the weight without working out much of this week-I pulled my hamstring, I'm out of action for 3-4 weeks. When I work out, my appetite goes down, actually. So that will be nice to get back in the routine.

André
 
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I'm down about 8 lbs. From 210 to 202. This is the second time around for the induction stage of Atkins. We had several gatherings on Saturday, so wasn't strict. Had to be polite and all that. But I didn't have desert, and just sipped at some home brew. The bread was too good to pass up.

What was neat was that I had the ability to limit my portions of lasagna. That's where this Atkins diet seems to be helping me, is in realizing how much breads and pasta I eat. TONS. I love bread. So many snacks are carbs.

My goal was 190. I may shoot for 180, realizing that I'll gain some back as I again eat like I like, but trying to do so in moderation. Another plus is that I've lost the weight without working out much of this week-I pulled my hamstring, I'm out of action for 3-4 weeks. When I work out, my appetite goes down, actually. So that will be nice to get back in the routine.

André
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The easiest way is to create a daily menu and go to the grocery store and make sure you have everything. Make sure you eat at least six smaller meals per day. When you're not hungry at approximate mealtimes, force yourself to eat.

You want bread, have some cheese instead. 180 should be attainable in 4-8 weeks. Are you willing to pay the price? The price is cheap, just don't go off on the high carbs; you shouldn't have any cravings after you are on the plan continuously for about a week.
 
Quote from picknclick:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/diet.fitness/10/14/lowcarb.mystery.ap/index.html

"Now, a small but carefully controlled study offers a strong hint that maybe Atkins was right: People on low-carb, high-fat diets actually can eat more. "
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Skeptics contend, however, that these dieters simply must be eating less. Maybe the low-carb diets are more satisfying, so they do not get so hungry. Or perhaps the food choices are just so limited that low-carb dieters are too bored to eat a lot.

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I like the way they use such unscientific phrases to discount Atkins!!! LOL...they simply must be eating more becuase darnit we are never wrong!!!...or maybe it's becuase there was a full moon???
 
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The easiest way is to create a daily menu and go to the grocery store and make sure you have everything. Make sure you eat at least six smaller meals per day. When you're not hungry at approximate mealtimes, force yourself to eat.
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This methodology does make sense, and would be wonderful if I didn't HATE snacking. My whole life I operated by the principle of "If you're not hungry, don't eat," and it never failed right up until I couldn't exercise for an extended period.

I am better about getting my metabolism moving by eating something first thing in the morning now than I used to be, yet aside from this I haven't changed any of my eating habits aside from counting carbs, and have never once been hungry on this diet.

I'm at 180 now btw - 60lbs gone since the end of May. De-inducting now. :cool:

Another thing though, is during the deinduction process I notice all the carb-laden stuff I used to like just doesn't even taste good anymore, not even pizza and ice cream (I indulged slightly during my recent birthday :)). Once you get used to not having it, you lose the taste for it.
 
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This methodology does make sense, and would be wonderful if I didn't HATE snacking. My whole life I operated by the principle of "If you're not hungry, don't eat," and it never failed right up until I couldn't exercise for an extended period.
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I think the major reasoning is two-fold; 1. your body must have the protein/fat to metabolize to simply stay healthy; 2. by eating often the body knows it's being fed and doesn't try to slow down the metabolism process. This last one is why a lot of the "normal" diets fail, the body tries to slow metabolism because it thinks the now lower amount of calories is indicative of an ongoing famine. Then, when the dieter can hold out no longer on the ridiculous 1200 calories a day, the body signals to "load up" to store fat for the next "famine." Typical caveman syndrome.
 
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