Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins

Venuto's article on how the body builders get REALLY
shredded right before competition.

http://www.athleticnutrition.com/Article57.shtml

Very interesting.


They slowly move towards a super high protein, low carb diet
as the contest nears. They do it in three stages.

The middle stage is similar to the zone diet.

It's gets more extreme towards the end.
The third stage is probably more like an Atkins diet
after carbs have been re-introduced:

50-55% protein
20-25% fat
25% carbs

His comments after stage 3:

"You're now ripped to shreds, you weigh 181 lbs. and all you have to do to make middleweights is lose some water a few days before the show. Your protein intake is now up to a whopping 1.8 - 2.0 g./lb./bodyweight."



peace

axeman
 
I really love this article.
It is what I have been telling all my female friends
who want to get lean for YEARS.

It's soooo obvious, I have never understood why
when you go to a gym, you see all the FAT women in
the aerobics room jumping around, all day long,
RIGHT NEXT DOOR to the most ripped, shredded,
muscle head body builders on the planet.


If you want to get REAL lean, BODY BUILD!
They have the lowest body fat around, and what
they do obviously works.

I agree with Venuto:
http://www.athleticnutrition.com/Article37.shtml



peace

axeman
 
Im not picking on GG im just pointing out that it is ridiculous for Elect. sav and others to be picked on and criticized when in fact It looks like you have totally different situations....so if you can't go to the gym and lift for 2 hours or run all you want, a lot of these diets are the only choice available..

Word, TM. When I left college, I became a local, and didn't have access to the college rec center where I could find a ball game pretty much from noon to 10pm. I had to find the local "invite-only" gyms, and it took awhile. I went from being active, playing ball 3-4 times a week for 2-3 hours to being lucky to play once a week, and sitting behind a computer for 50-60 hours a week.

In my youth I was 185 lbs on a "big boned" 5'10" frame. Going from school to work, I added 15 pounds in 3 months, that have never come off. Add being a parent to that routine means it's much harder to get in the workouts. Both in number of times per week and in length.

For the last 5-6 years I've fluctuated 5 pounds either side of 210. I doubt anyone would call me fat. I can carry the weight. And I do work out. I had a doc who made an assumption I was a sloth, be surprised at my heart recovery rate. But I really want to get to 190. It'll be alot easier on my knees.

So what do you do, if it's hard to get in the time? I've long targeted serving sizes. The convenience of breads is a tougher lifestyle to change, however. But the low carb approach also may be key for me.

Why is that so hard for some to accept? I really don't need anyone's approval to try it. I don't think it's the next best new thing. I've never done a "diet" before, and I'm not really looking at at Atkins as a diet either. I'm looking to change my lifestyle.

I really do tire of people bashing Atkins or looking low carb intake as a place to make changes. I'd like to hear people's recipes and successes and failures. I'm tired of having to defend it.

To all those who feel called to debunk Atkins/Low Carb... respect our wish to have a discussion about Atkins. Don't do the Atkins diet, if you think it's hooey.

André

PS: I made a fantastic chicken stew the other night, with some of our over-ripe tomatoes, and some fresh basil from a neighbor. Dag, that was good. I'm cutting up the last of the tomatoes and freezing them for soups. I'm cutting up some basil and putting it in there too. I'll throw the bones and ends of veggies and stuff in there, when I cook it all down for the base.
 
Andre:

I had to change my routine to accommodate family life...I get up and its dark and by the time i get back, the sun is breaking....i get up crackof dawn on the weekends to go play ball and try to squeeze a game in mid week........My most jealous time is sat and sun morning...the 20-25 year olds actually play at 8 am until 10/10:30 am because of the heat....But these young punks are all in great shape and smell of booze, smoke and bitches because they NEVER WENT HOME THE NIGHT BEFORE!! LOL!!!....aHHhH those were the days...A couple get changed right in the parking lot form their club cloths....and worst of all they are not even hung over or sleepy or the least bit sluggish on the court
 
Oh man... im only in my mid thirties, but this brings
back memories.

When I was 21-25 my weekly routine was:

Thursday night: Clubbing till 2am
Friday night: Clubbing until 2am
Saturday afternoon: 4 hours of full court B-ball in 100 degree NC sun
Saturday night: clubbing till 2am

Mon-Thurs: Recovery time.

And it was EASY - LOL :D


peace

axeman




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Andre:

I had to change my routine to accommodate family life...I get up and its dark and by the time i get back, the sun is breaking....i get up crackof dawn on the weekends to go play ball and try to squeeze a game in mid week........My most jealous time is sat and sun morning...the 20-25 year olds actually play at 8 am until 10/10:30 am because of the heat....But these young punks are all in great shape and smell of booze, smoke and bitches because they NEVER WENT HOME THE NIGHT BEFORE!! LOL!!!....aHHhH those were the days...A couple get changed right in the parking lot form their club cloths....and worst of all they are not even hung over or sleepy or the least bit sluggish on the court
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So what do you do, if it's hard to get in the time? I've long targeted serving sizes. The convenience of breads is a tougher lifestyle to change, however. But the low carb approach also may be key for me.
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Maintaining a low-carb lifestyle has been difficult without bread, not so much because of the bread itself (I got over that craving long ago), but because I could no longer make sandwiches (yes, I've done the lettuce-wrap routine and no thanks).

However, once I found a recipe for gluten bread (which has virtually no starch and only 3-4g of carbs per slice), sandwiches are again part of my "diet", and there are a great many low-carb, high-protein sandwiches I can make, along with the usual veggie varieties.

I understand that some people can find gluten bread in their stores, but not here. And if you don't know how to make your own, I see no reason why it can't be made in a bread machine. The gluten, after all, is what makes bread possible, not the starch.

Learning how to roast a chicken is also basic. It's so simple to do that even someone who's never turned on a stove can do it. It's also one of the fundamentals of the French repertoire. And even if you don't eat the chicken as is, letting it cool and pulling the meat off the bones gives you a couple of pounds of meat for chicken a la king, enchiladas, or any other recipe that calls for cooked chicken.
 
Quote from axeman:

Oh man... im only in my mid thirties, but this brings
back memories.

When I was 21-25 my weekly routine was:

Thursday night: Clubbing till 2am
Friday night: Clubbing until 2am
Saturday afternoon: 4 hours of full court B-ball in 100 degree NC sun
Saturday night: clubbing till 2am

Mon-Thurs: Recovery time.

And it was EASY - LOL :D
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That's what rolling over 35 is all about, but a lot of men don't understand that, which is why they usually don't do anything about the beer belly until it's obvious even to them, at which point it's even more difficult to get it off, much less keep it off.
 
Speaking of the crock pot from before.....


some of the best ribs in the world are made by yours truly...

take some baby backs....throw them on the grill on HIGH three minutes each side so you burn them a little......then throw them into the crock pot on LOW for 6 hours....or high for 3, but the low cook is better....NOW for the choice:

you can cook them with a) a bottle o BBQ sauce ( awesome but lots of sugar and carbs b) throw in some butter, hot sauce and some broth and spices like garlic, onion, cumin ect....


F#ing AWESOME etiher way
 
I used to play 2-3 hours an evening 4-5 times a week in Virginia humidity. Now? No way can my body take hoops more then 3 times a week, and no back to back days. I've lost some speed, but I still have a first step. I can always get a young fool to foul me. Plus, being a bit large, they assume I'm slow. Hah.

We ought to have an Elite Trader hoops tourny.

André
 
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PS: I made a fantastic chicken stew the other night, with some of our over-ripe tomatoes, and some fresh basil from a neighbor. Dag, that was good. I'm cutting up the last of the tomatoes and freezing them for soups. I'm cutting up some basil and putting it in there too. I'll throw the bones and ends of veggies and stuff in there, when I cook it all down for the base.
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And don't forget the gumbos. Just leave out the roux.
 
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