Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins

[FasterPussycat]

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yes.....its also considered a 'brain food' because of its complex proteins and aminos....regarding mercury: everything we eat today, including vegetables and grains has some chemical elements in them that are not that good for you.

oh so everything contains something bad you shouldn't try to avoid anything??

you say the dumbest things.

read the link.

 

[FasterPussycat]

Quote from max401:

Is this recent enough for you?

CU-Health Sciences Center Researchers Release Results of First Atkins Diet Study

DENVER (May 21, 2003) – In a study published in the May 22 New England Journal of Medicine, University of Colorado Health Sciences Center researchers James O. Hill, PhD, and Holly Wyatt, MD, report results of the first controlled trial of the Atkins Diet.

The Atkins Diet limits carbohydrates but permits unrestricted amounts of protein and fat. Compared to a conventional, high-carbohydrate, low-calorie approach, the study found Atkins dieters lost twice as much weight at three and six months, but there was no difference between the groups at one year. Despite no differences in weight at one year, the Atkins dieters had significantly greater increases in good cholesterol (HDL) and decreases in triglycerides.

“While it is premature to widely recommend low carbohydrate diets, these initial findings suggest that such diets may not have such detrimental affects on cholesterol as was originally thought to be the case,” Wyatt said.

Results of this first randomized, controlled study of the Atkins diet suggest that low-carbohydrate diets may not be as harmful as anticipated, but longer and larger studies are required to assess the long-term safety and efficacy of low-carbohydrate, high-protein, high-fat diets.

The study evaluated 63 obese men and women who were randomly assigned to either the Atkins diet or a low-calorie, low-fat conventional diet. Participants in the study met with a registered dietician at zero, three, six and 12 months into the program. Those in the Atkins group received a copy of Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution and were asked to follow the diet as described. The conventional diet group received instructional materials on how to maintain a diet that consisted of 60 percent carbohydrates, 25 percent fat, and 15 percent protein, based on the Food Guide Pyramid.

At three months, Atkins participants lost an average of 17.6 pounds, compared with 8.3 pounds in the conventional diet group. At six months, Atkins dieters lost 21.1 pounds

compared to 11.5 pounds, and at 12 months, Atkins dieters had lost 15.9 pounds versus 9.7 pounds.

“The low-carbohydrate diet produced a greater weight loss than the conventional diet did for the first six months, but the differences were not that significant at one year,” Hill notes. “The preliminary data suggest there may be some favorable effects of a low-carbohydrate diet in terms of triglycerides and HDL (good) cholesterol.”

The study was funded through grants from the National Institutes of Health General Clinical Research Centers at the University of Pennsylvania, Washington University, and CU-Health Sciences Center/Center for Human Nutrition.

BFD!

The diff weight-loss was not significant over time but still worth risking my health on this bacon & eggs diet anyway? i think not!

you got nothing but high hopes

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from FasterPussycat:



oh so everything contains something bad you shouldn't try to avoid anything??

you say the dumbest things.

read the link.

Well, fortunately Im not pregnant so i don't have to worry about it do i??? Give me a break....If you are concerned so much about mercury eat another fish, whatever...i think they overblown all this crap but if it makes FPC feel better i will switch to trout ok?? ..

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from FasterPussycat:



BFD!

The diff weight-loss was not significant over time but still worth risking my health on this bacon & eggs diet anyway? i think not!

you got nothing but high hopes

Ok but we proved it works and it works better...that Dr. is spreading propaganda,why? losing 15.6lbs on atkins in 12 months vs 9.9 is almost 6lbs,,,,that is a big deal....yet they still WARN about potential hazards, yet they can only speculate that it may harm you ...no scientific proof or experiment that it hurts you ...but they do admit that you lose more weight AND lowe cholesterol......FPC....your overweight aren't you???? I've noticed that the people who attack Atkins the most are fat people when have tried every diet but can;t lose weight.....but Atkins offers them the one thing they dreamed of which is NO HUNGER....but they just cannot lay off the rice and beans and bread ...so in depression they Attack this plan....previously, they blamed hormones, stress, genetics, ...atkins takes away the last bastian of hope and excuses and puts the blame squarely on the individual if he cannot lose weight....tell the truth, are you overweight?

 

[bobcathy1]

Look at it this way FPC,
we all are going to die. Wouldn't it be a shame to die of nothing?

We all know anyone who posts in this thread has a "weight problem"......why else would they be interested TM?

 

[FasterPussycat]

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Ok but we proved it works and it works better...that Dr. is spreading propaganda,why? losing 15.6lbs on atkins in 12 months vs 9.9 is almost 6lbs,,,,that is a big deal....yet they still WARN about potential hazards, yet they can only speculate that it may harm you ...no scientific proof or experiment that it hurts you ...but they do admit that you lose more weight AND lowe cholesterol......FPC....your overweight aren't you???? I've noticed that the people who attack Atkins the most are fat people when have tried every diet but can;t lose weight.....but Atkins offers them the one thing they dreamed of which is NO HUNGER....but they just cannot lay off the rice and beans and bread ...so in depression they Attack this plan....previously, they blamed hormones, stress, genetics, ...atkins takes away the last bastian of hope and excuses and puts the blame squarely on the individual if he cannot lose weight....tell the truth, are you overweight?

no, this proves nothing. one little study throws you a bone in short term and your willing to chuck all nutritional science out the window? you have a problem with critical thinking. at least part of your problem is you allow misconceptions to easily enter your brain and become reality for you. you got a lot squirrels running amuck up there bub.

i recommend a strong healthy dose of THIS...


http://skepdic.com/refuge/

 

[FasterPussycat]

Quote from bobcathy1:

Look at it this way FPC,
we all are going to die. Wouldn't it be a shame to die of nothing?

We all know anyone who posts in this thread has a "weight problem"......why else would they be interested TM?

i hope you're not serious here. if you are you have IQ of an earthworm.

ps my bodyfat level is 5.5 %. whats yours sweetie? let me guess.. 35%? HA!!

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from FasterPussycat:



no, this proves nothing. one little study throws you a bone in short term and your willing to chuck all nutritional science out the window? you have a problem with critical thinking. at least part of your problem is you allow misconceptions to easily enter your brain and become reality for you. you got a lot squirrels running amuck up there bub.

i recommend a strong healthy dose of THIS...


http://skepdic.com/refuge/

You are totally clueless....listen to yourself.....IM THE ONE WHO IS SKEPTICAL.....YOU are accepting the 'scientific word' as gospel and since they have been pushing a pyramid for 30 years, you are afraid to think outside the lines....you even said on an earlier post that the pyramid needs to be refined....so it means I am right in not just accepting the nutrition pyramid that they forced down our throats....YOU need to become skeptical of what the government and the AMA is brainwashing you with.

 

[Andre]

FPC... Mercury was long the agent used in vaccines to give them a shelf life. Mercury is a poison, for crying out loud. But we weighed the benefits of getting polio versus trace amounts of Mercury. (What we haven't studied much is the build up of toxins in our bodies.)

Fluoride, is also poisonous... but many cities fluoridate their water supply with trace amounts for the affect it has on improving oral health. As I said earlier, the fluoridation policies were created at an earlier time. We now have better overall nutrition and better overall access to health care. In some circles, there's a call for removing fluoride from city water.

André

 

[TM_Direct]

Can we keep this thread on ATKINS??


FPC's points are well taken and the debate will continue to rage on im sure, but for those fools who believe in the Atkins approach this could be a good forum to exchange ideas and info. We aren;t getting anywhere arguing this so let's just say all these people who lost weight with atkins only lost it because of water wight and placebo effect ok??? now can we just get back to the atkins plan.