LMAO!!!!! the UN is now involved in diet guidance????? that's funny....i've done research and i've noticed that they have not definitively proven any harmful effects...In fact, for years they warned about the risk of cholesterol levels on this diet....then they did a study and found it did the opposite.....OOps....so, i would have to question why i should believe there other warnings when they have not tested them or proven their theories.....don't you find it weird that they all hate Atkins, yet they have not come out wiht studies and experiments to prove him wrong once and for all and shut him up?? did you know that Atkins will sponsor on a unrestricted basis any medical group that wants to dissprove his plan, yet very few take him up on the offer....isn;t that strange?
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LMAO!!!!! the UN is now involved in diet guidance????? that's funny....i've done research and i've noticed that they have not definitively proven any harmful effects...In fact, for years they warned about the risk of cholesterol levels on this diet....then they did a study and found it did the opposite.....OOps....so, i would have to question why i should believe there other warnings when they have not tested them or proven their theories.....don't you find it weird that they all hate Atkins, yet they have not come out wiht studies and experiments to prove him wrong once and for all and shut him up?? did you know that Atkins will sponsor on a unrestricted basis any medical group that wants to dissprove his plan, yet very few take him up on the offer....isn;t that strange?
Atkins diet may trigger a major health danger- doctors
Australian experts say the diet is too low in fibre, vitamin C, calcium and folate, and put long-term dieters at risk of heart disease, osteoporosis, bowel cancer and kidney failure.
14/08/2003 Doctors and dietitians are warning a high-fat diet followed by tens of thousands of Australians and millions worldwide is a major health danger.
Australians have backed a startling attack by Britain`s Medical Research Council on the high-protein, low-carbohydrate Atkins diet, which allows unlimited butter, cream, cheese, mayonnaise, meat and fish but very little carbohydrate.
The Medical Research Council this week said the diet was medically unsound and a giant experiment, which could have disastrous effects for millions.
Medical Research Council expert Dr Susan Jebb said it would be negligent to recommend the diet for long-term use and called for urgent research into its safety.
Dr Jebb dismissed the theory behind the diet -- that it changes the body`s chemistry to burn fat -- as pseudo-science.
Australian experts said the diet was too low in fibre, vitamin C, calcium and folate, and put long-term dieters at risk of heart disease, osteoporosis, bowel cancer and kidney failure.
Dietitians Association of Australia spokesman Trent Watson said eating large quantities of fat was dangerous in the long term.
The late Dr Robert Atkins, whose diet books have sold well over 25 million copies, believed carbohydrates such as bread, pasta, rice and starchy vegetables over-stimulated insulin production, causing hunger and weight gain.
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Australian experts say the diet is too low in fibre, vitamin C, calcium and folate, and put long-term dieters at risk of heart disease, osteoporosis, bowel cancer and kidney failure.
14/08/2003 Doctors and dietitians are warning a high-fat diet followed by tens of thousands of Australians and millions worldwide is a major health danger.
Australians have backed a startling attack by Britain`s Medical Research Council on the high-protein, low-carbohydrate Atkins diet, which allows unlimited butter, cream, cheese, mayonnaise, meat and fish but very little carbohydrate.
The Medical Research Council this week said the diet was medically unsound and a giant experiment, which could have disastrous effects for millions.
Medical Research Council expert Dr Susan Jebb said it would be negligent to recommend the diet for long-term use and called for urgent research into its safety.
Dr Jebb dismissed the theory behind the diet -- that it changes the body`s chemistry to burn fat -- as pseudo-science.
Australian experts said the diet was too low in fibre, vitamin C, calcium and folate, and put long-term dieters at risk of heart disease, osteoporosis, bowel cancer and kidney failure.
Dietitians Association of Australia spokesman Trent Watson said eating large quantities of fat was dangerous in the long term.
The late Dr Robert Atkins, whose diet books have sold well over 25 million copies, believed carbohydrates such as bread, pasta, rice and starchy vegetables over-stimulated insulin production, causing hunger and weight gain.
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don't you find it odd that Atkins himself has NEVER done ONE study of his own to prove HIS claims?
He conceived this diet over THIRTY YEARS AGO!
NOT ONE STUDY!
no, i suppose YOU wouldn't find that suspicious would you ..
MAY TRIGGER....Not science, no proof......FPC, where is the proof????...they claimed and warned for years that it would cause heart disease from cholesterol intake......BUT THEN THEY WERE PROVEN WRONG!...im surprised that a guy who doesn't believe in God because of no proof would just blindly follow doctors making guesses with no scientific fact
Atkins was never exactly a picture of health.
The Dangerous Legacy of Dr. Atkins
By Michael Fumento
Scripps Howard News Service, April 24, 2003
Copyright 2003 Scripps Howard News Service
Itâs said we shouldnât speak ill of the dead, but we all do. And for the sake of our nationâs health, the mythology behind the diet of the late Dr. Robert Atkins must be buried with him.
Atkins was never exactly a picture of health.
Three decades ago, Atkins began peddling his plan proclaiming that if you keep your carbohydrate intake drastically low you could eat literally an incredible 5,000 calories a day and still lose weight. The formula was a great success â for Atkins. He became the most successful diet guru ever, filling his coffers as his readers stuffed their faces and expanded their bellies.
Then his reputation and sales received an incredible boost last July when prominent science writer Gary Taubes penned an anaconda-length article for the New York Times Magazine, leading readers to believe there is scientific support for the low-carb claims. Atkinsâ net worth zoomed to $100 million, while Taubes himself gobbled up a high-fat $700,000 book deal.
But nutritionists and doctors were horrified â including several whom Taubes presented as supporting Atkinsâ regimen.
"I was greatly offended by how Gary Taubes tricked us all into coming across as supporters of the Atkins Diet," said one, Stanford University cardiologist Dr. John Farquhar. âI'm sorry I ever talked to him."
âI thought the article was outrageous," said Farquharâs colleague at Stanford, Dr. Gerald Reaven. Seeing himself mentioned, he told me, made him âembarrassed as hell.â
Both will tell you what any good nutritionist or doctor will: Thereâs no magic in weight control. Itâs just calories in and calories out, regardless of whether the composition is fat, carbohydrates, or protein.
Both Taubes and Atkins simply ignored hundreds of studies, some dating back to the 1950s, showing just that.
In April 2001, for example, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association reviewed âall studies identifiedâ that looked at diet nutrient composition and weight loss, over 200 in all. Conclusion: âWeight loss is independent of diet composition.â
Most recently, a review in the April 9, 2003 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) found âinsufficient evidence to conclude that lower-carbohydrate content is independently associated with greater weight loss compared with higher-carbohydrate content."
The analysis of 107 articles published between 1966 and February 2003, involving 3268 participants, concluded that what worked were "diets that restricted calorie intake and were longer in duration.â Thus, âwhen lower-carbohydrate diets result in weight loss, it also is likely due to restriction of calorie intake and longer duration rather than carbohydrate intake."
Science-journalist-turned-Atkins-advertorial writer Gary Taubes.
As long as we can stick to it, low-carb eating can lead to eating fewer calories simply because most of what we normally eat is carbohydrates. But thereâs no metabolic magic to low-carb eating; nor is fat more satiating than carbohydrates, as Atkins and Taubes have suggested.
âUltimately our data do not support any such mechanism that Atkins and his proponents have made,â says the University of Cincinnatiâs Randy Seeley, a co-researcher of a study of Atkins dieters.
But what about all those people who swear by the diet â often with the religious fervor of a Jim Jones acolyte?
With 15 million Atkins book purchasers, obviously there will be success stories. A 99 percent failure rate would yield 150,000. But does a good diet work merely one percent of the time?
Further, many people can lose weight on the diet for short periods until they can no longer resist their bodyâs need for carbohydrates. But go to an online low-carb shrine, such as http://www.atkinfriend.com/faces/, and youâll find many of the vociferous proponents arenât evaluating what the diet has done for them, but rather what they hope it will do.
Of the hundreds of testimonials on that site, few even claim to have reached their weight-loss goal; instead they boast of having lost a few pounds towards it. Then â surprise! â they never appear on the site again.
When Atkinsâ first hit the scene, he was a mere nuisance. But today two-thirds of Americans are overweight and one-third obese. Obesity will soon pass smoking as the leading cause of lifestyle-related death and illness.
There are many reasons for this explosion, and itâs probably coincidence that it began about when Atkinsâ first book appeared. But certainly a major contributor has been the diet gurus who trick people into believing they can lose weight through some magic formula, rather than the only method that works: controlling caloric intake and output.
Atkins was the greatest calorie con-man, which made him the worst. Atkins Diet, Rest in Peace.
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Amen to that bro. R.I.P Atkins - YOU BIG FAT FAKE.
The work done by the United Nations University is not at all funny, and they have been involved in nutrition for many years.
Do you think the China study is funny too? Perhaps you have not studied this massive body of work? The largest ever undertaken by the way.
Study? LOL, TM can barely read!
Greetings, I bodybuild and know quite a few in the hobby.
When I talk to people in shape they are individuals who have in large part cut back on the consumption of carbs. The pyramid probably should be thrown out the window as after decades of recommended carbs and low fat/low protein dieting Americans are fatter and more unhealthy than ever.
Atkins is not perfect either. Natural foods are what fights cancer and allows us to rebuild body tissue. I would never stop consuming fruits and vegetables to look a certain way. Fortunately these foods are high in fiber and don't have the same true carb value as most others such as bread.
I'm not getting into your debate, too busy making money in the markets. But I think the all encompassing proof of an effective diet should be to find the people who are actually in shape and talk to them. And everyone I talk to are much closer to an atkins style diet than the diet based on the fat producing pyramid suggested in this country.
Carbohydrates in mass quantities were not even available for most of world history until the last 2 centuries. A diet high in carbs will induce a sugar burning state of the body inducing the body to store fat. Dietary fat does not necessarily turn into body fat. exercise is extremely important.
When I talk to people in shape they are individuals who have in large part cut back on the consumption of carbs. The pyramid probably should be thrown out the window as after decades of recommended carbs and low fat/low protein dieting Americans are fatter and more unhealthy than ever.
Atkins is not perfect either. Natural foods are what fights cancer and allows us to rebuild body tissue. I would never stop consuming fruits and vegetables to look a certain way. Fortunately these foods are high in fiber and don't have the same true carb value as most others such as bread.
I'm not getting into your debate, too busy making money in the markets. But I think the all encompassing proof of an effective diet should be to find the people who are actually in shape and talk to them. And everyone I talk to are much closer to an atkins style diet than the diet based on the fat producing pyramid suggested in this country.
Carbohydrates in mass quantities were not even available for most of world history until the last 2 centuries. A diet high in carbs will induce a sugar burning state of the body inducing the body to store fat. Dietary fat does not necessarily turn into body fat. exercise is extremely important.