Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins

Ken whatever it takes schedule 3 weeks of do it and you will love it. You cant keep me out of the gym two days in a row because the feeling and the results right now a huge. I will be solid and I am a rock - well not yet. But the vein in my bicep is coming back. It is becoming a habit again and right now lifting is fun. Running sucks cause I still weigh 225-228 but I like being done.

If you cant pick something fun just make it a habit. After 3 weeks you will need it.


FPC man I let my exercise program slip so bad if I hadn't done the atkins it would have taken me a lot longer to get back in the groove. Plus it sounds to me that you are not a carb addict. You do not know how much a bunch of cokes and a bunch of OJ and a bunch junk and some cereal can totally screw you up by one o'clock when the markets close. I had to quit that carb shit for a few weeks just to show the carbs who was boss. (Caffeine). But I am control the carbs now. If you have not been out of shape, overweight and getting your energy from sugar, you might not know what I am talking about. Getting decarbed is important whether you regain control slowly or radically it has to be done.

You may know more about nutrition than I do but I know more about feeling like shit while trading. I wont do it again.

Cheers as I have my miller lite.
 
Quote from alfonso:




Yes, I agree. People like YOU.


You rant and rave and rant and rave yet you seem to be completely insulated against any rational evidence that challenges what you 'know'.


At the most basic level, why is it so difficult for you to accept that, in the short term, the Atkins approach may be an effective way to shed excess fat? If the evidence says that low-carb, while perhaps a questionable diet in the long run, is an an effective and efficient first step towards long term health (insofar as it enables fat loss and promotes attention to detail and discipline)?

I know your style is to caste desultory insults, under the guise of being an "in your face" badass, but on this topic you're even making the solidly rock headed Rock Solid look good.
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When I see some RATIONAL evidence I'll consider it. So far all I've seen are a bunch of weak-minded saps falling for the latest diet fad like a newbie trader buying into next "holy grail."

Where's your evidence a high fat diet is healthy? (Not weightloss, ..Healthy). Where is YOUR "rational" challenge?

I'll bet you haven't read ONE of my links have you. No, you haven't because you either don't want to know or you don't have capability of reasoning what you read so you don't bother to make the attempt.

:-/
 
Quote from nitro:

IMHO,

The best way to "exercise" is to pick a sport you like and start playing it. I have always hated exercise, but love sports.

I have started playing tennis and it is helping immensely.

nitro
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This is not sufficient. Exercise needs to be structured and measured to achieve best results. To just pick some sport and play it isn't enuf. What if I pick golf.. :-/

IMO, one needs both cardio & resistance training. You can get great cardio from resistance training if you train a certain way. But just do a "sport" is too uncertain way to fitness.
 
Quote from jem:

Ken whatever it takes schedule 3 weeks of do it and you will love it. You cant keep me out of the gym two days in a row because the feeling and the results right now a huge. I will be solid and I am a rock - well not yet. But the vein in my bicep is coming back. It is becoming a habit again and right now lifting is fun. Running sucks cause I still weigh 225-228 but I like being done.

If you cant pick something fun just make it a habit. After 3 weeks you will need it.


FPC man I let my exercise program slip so bad if I hadn't done the atkins it would have taken me a lot longer to get back in the groove. Plus it sounds to me that you are not a carb addict. You do not know how much a bunch of cokes and a bunch of OJ and a bunch junk and some cereal can totally screw you up by one o'clock when the markets close. I had to quit that carb shit for a few weeks just to show the carbs who was boss. (Caffeine). But I am control the carbs now. If you have not been out of shape, overweight and getting your energy from sugar, you might not know what I am talking about. Getting decarbed is important whether you regain control slowly or radically it has to be done.

You may know more about nutrition than I do but I know more about feeling like shit while trading. I wont do it again.

Cheers as I have my miller lite.
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You were eating wrong then. And you're still eating wrong now, IMO.

But congrats on your weight loss in any event.
 
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When I see some RATIONAL evidence I'll consider it. So far all I've seen are a bunch of weak-minded saps falling for the latest diet fad like a newbie trader buying into next "holy grail."

Where's your evidence a high fat diet is healthy? (Not weightloss, ..Healthy). Where is YOUR "rational" challenge?

I'll bet you haven't read ONE of my links have you. No, you haven't because you either don't want to know or you don't have capability of reasoning what you read so you don't bother to make the attempt.

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Actually, I read all the links you posted. Interesting reading, but it was more or less preaching to the choir, because they represent the viewpoint that I already held.

I (personally) haven't said anything about a high fat diet being healthy. I do lean towards saying that it isn't, but I'm much less adamant about it now -- the studies you cite have too many variables to be considered conclusive (though you may disagree). What I was talking about was simply a short term "fix". Lose the fat, then look to "get healthy".

Seriously now, wouldn't you agree that this might be an effective 'trick'? I mean, if someone suggested to you that you could improve your training results by tweaking your reps/sets routine, if only for a short time, wouldn't you at least consider it? I'm sure you would. Why not then at least consider slightly tweaking the diet, again, if for just a short period of time?

Just because someone makes tactical adjustments while trying to achieve a long term goal doesn't mean they're seeking "holy grails" or are "weak minded saps". That's terribly unfair, and you know it. (In fact, getting myself to up my fat intake was VERY difficult :))

The evidence that they're healthy? I could have a look on the Atkins site (www.atkins.com) and dig something up, but then so could you. There's links there to a lot of studies, published in respected journals (at least I think they are; check) that lend support to the Atkins claims.

The evidence that they result in fat loss? Abundant. If you're the musclehead you make out to be, then you surely can't have failed to encounter numerous low-carb proponents in the gym -- healthy looking (can be deceiving), lean and built proponents, at that.

Personally I'm going to stick at it for another few weeks, at least. My experience of the first week has been tough, no doubt. Light-headedness, headaches, constipation, lack of energy (especially during workouts). But all of this was to be anticipated. Hardly the stuff of a "weak minded sap", surely.

Why not try it yourself? :)
 
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anybody have tips on how to get motivated to start exercising?

I try now and then, I have a complete oceanfront home gym w/stairstepper, treadmill, full nautilus setup in my living room, but it mostly just gathers dust.

I'd rather be doing just about anything else, then sitting there exercising.

What motivates you all to actually do the exercise? I'm almost 40, used to go to the gym for years, but nowadays, exercise I see as more a 'necessary evil" instead of something fun to do, so I don't do it.

ideas anyone?
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When I was playing sports , we had weight lifting couch who was also personal trainer , very funny guy , and he was telling us different methods how to motivate people to excersize .
Funniest one was when he made overweight people strip into underwear and jump up and down in front of a mirror while telling them : Is that what you want everybody to see ?
Walter
 
Quote from FasterPussycat:



So far all I've seen are a bunch of weak-minded saps falling for the latest diet fad like a newbie trader buying into next "holy grail."
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Yeah, Atkins is the "latest," about 30 years ago.
 
Quote from FasterPussycat:



When I see some RATIONAL evidence I'll consider it.
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The problem for the traditional nutritionists is they have been repeating the well known "fat is bad" mantra/theory ever since the diet was developed, but have never come up with the first study that proves it. Fat is bad when coupled with the typical high carb sugary diet. To these nutritionists chagrin, recent studies have started to show that Atkins was right about the fat metabolism mechanism as well as the long term results.
 
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I'll bet you haven't read ONE of my links have you. No, you haven't because you either don't want to know or you don't have capability of reasoning what you read so you don't bother to make the attempt.
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Your diabetes links? I read them. The first was a study in hamsters, clearly no documentation as to the carb factor and it was only saturated fat that was used in the study. Your second link again did not show what carb content was used in the study. Out of all the food groups fat is the only energy source that does not cause insulin production.
 
Quote from max401:

The problem for the traditional nutritionists is they have been repeating the well known "fat is bad" mantra/theory ever since the diet was developed, but have never come up with the first study that proves it. Fat is bad when coupled with the typical high carb sugary diet. To these nutritionists chagrin, recent studies have started to show that Atkins was right about the fat metabolism mechanism as well as the long term results.
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Amusing how quickly you're willing to throw away "well known theory" for "recent studies started to show" (whatever the hell that is)

And how could "recent studies" show atkins right over "long term"?


You're grasping for straws. Rationalizing big time. It is so repulsive to watch. :D

Now the question is why would someone want to do this? Hmmm, perhaps they want their cake and eat it too? Or is that steak? LOL
 
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