Well, take a look and tell me if I can have any vegetables with my steak:Quote from randynutts:
Three Servings of Fruit and Veg Dramatically
Cuts Risk of Death
People who eat three or more servings of fruit and vegetables a day have a significantly lower risk of dying from stroke, heart disease, and all other causes, say researchers from Tulane University in New Orleans. The study of more than 9,000 adults revealed that people who ate three or more servings of fruit and veg a day were 42% less likely to have a fatal stroke, 27% less likely to die from cardiovascular disease, 24% less likely to die from ischemic heart disease, and 15% less likely to die from all other causes.
SOURCE/REFERENCE: American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 2002; 76:93-99
Max says: Can I substitute steak for my veggies
Answer: No max steak for breakfast, lunch and dinner doesn't work.![]()
Quote from max401:
How so? 1 oz of garlic = 9.6g of carbs, 1 oz of onions = 2.46g of carbs. So in the example you gave, consuming 1/3 of an ounce of onion and garlic would result in less than 4 grams of carbohydrates before the deduct for fiber content. Even the induction phase of Atkins allows 20G's of carbs.
Induction is two weeks. For more info: http://atkins.com/Quote from alfonso:
"Allows" 20g (!!) of carbs?
Yowza, that seems very, very low.
How long is this "induction phase" supposed to last?
What are the carb limits bumped up to after it?
I've got about 15-20lb of fat I'd like to get rid of. (Damn it! Let myself go!). This Atkins stuff sounds kinda interesting. Even from what little I know about it (this thread is first I've heard), I take it that there is at least some scientific basis for the recommendations; and it's hard to argue against results.
Am I correct in taking it as some kind of short term (less than 1 year) "shock therapy" fix? I'm a bit skeptical of the long term health effects of something that holds carbs to such alarmingly, imo, low levels.

Quote from franklin:
You guys are making this too complicated!
Just keep your carb/protein ratio below 2:1, but not less than 1:1, keep your total calorie count reasonable for your height and build, and then, within these limits, eat whatever stuff you think will have added health benefits. That will produce all the benefits of "low carb" diets w/o any health risks and w/o the need for an "induction" period. (The carb limit keeps you from eating too much sugar, the calorie limit from eating too much fat, and the protein makes you feel "full" sooner.)
Personally, I shoot for 1:1, but hit something more like 1.4:1, which is the value recommened by the most recent research. BTW, with respect to nutrition bars, there is no need to buy expensive Atkins stuff...try a "Balance" brand bar, which has a carb/protein ratio of about 1.4:1, and tastes better than any other bar I've tried. (The 200-calorie Caramel Nut Blast tastes something like a Snickers bar.)
(note: carb/protien is gram ratio from food nutrition labels after subtracting any fiber, sugar alcohols, and glycerine from carbs)
Quote from franklin:
You guys are making this too complicated!
Just keep your carb/protein ratio below 2:1, but not less than 1:1, keep your total calorie count reasonable for your height and build, and then, within these limits, eat whatever stuff you think will have added health benefits. That will produce all the benefits of "low carb" diets w/o any health risks and w/o the need for an "induction" period. (The carb limit keeps you from eating too much sugar, the calorie limit from eating too much fat, and the protein makes you feel "full" sooner.)