i'm not disputing that FPC stirs things up. i actually happen to like that. if you don't, that's totally fine. i have NO PROBLEM with you not liking FPC. i really have no problem at all with that. i DO have a problem with people asking for people to be BANNED while they have an IGNORE LIST.
Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins
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i'm not disputing that FPC stirs things up. i actually happen to like that. if you don't, that's totally fine. i have NO PROBLEM with you not liking FPC. i really have no problem at all with that. i DO have a problem with people asking for people to be BANNED while they have an IGNORE LIST.
Gordon,
FPC might be a nice guy or gal and a talented trader.....I never said I did not like him/her or both. Its what he/she posts and writes that I do not find helpfull. But a question might be, How many traders that are not savvy to the likes of what he/she is doing and posting to the community are truely enrichened, motivated, helped, educated or mentored?
Now, as to the matter at hand.....
What methods of body fat measurments are used? I have read that skin calipers might not be as accurate as underwater weighing. Is this true?
Michael B.
Gordon,
FPC might be a nice guy or gal and a talented trader.....I never said I did not like him/her or both. Its what he/she posts and writes that I do not find helpfull. But a question might be, How many traders that are not savvy to the likes of what he/she is doing and posting to the community are truely enrichened, motivated, helped, educated or mentored?
Now, as to the matter at hand.....
What methods of body fat measurments are used? I have read that skin calipers might not be as accurate as underwater weighing. Is this true?
Michael B.
On an actual Atkins topic....
The theory as I undertstand it is that the insulin dumps which emanate from large amounts of carbs being ingested, is what causes the unhealthy blood levels from ingested fat.
Naturally, if you go low fat, that has a similar effect and hence the hard to change belief that higher fat must be detrimental.
By subtracting the high carb intake out of the diet, this prevents the high levels of insulin that would have reacted with the fat.
The theory as I undertstand it is that the insulin dumps which emanate from large amounts of carbs being ingested, is what causes the unhealthy blood levels from ingested fat.
Naturally, if you go low fat, that has a similar effect and hence the hard to change belief that higher fat must be detrimental.
By subtracting the high carb intake out of the diet, this prevents the high levels of insulin that would have reacted with the fat.
i've never done the water thing. sounds like a pain in the ass to me.
i used to use a cheap plastic caliper, but after using it a lot, it seemed to me like after a while the plastic would get bent, skewing the results.
then i bought an electronic one. it's called "fat track II"... this gives a digital read out and is more reliable than the all plastic ones, imo.
HOWEVER, even the fat track II doesn't seem totally accurate. it tells me my body fat is 2.3% (and yes, i'm using it correctly)!!! i'm in very good shape, so who knows, maybe it is right.
also, i've been lifting weights, too..thus, my lean mass has increased. so what i'm saying is, as your lean mass increases, it becomes easier to have a lower body fat % because as your lean body mass increases, a low body fat % can still be a large amount of fat.
anyway, for most people's needs, accuracy doesn't even matter much with this stuff. even if it's somewhat inaccurate, you can still measure PROGRESS. every week i keep track of my total weight, body fat %, and lean body mass. even if my body fat % is off by 1-2%, i can still tell if my lean body mass or body fat % is increasing, decreasing, or staying the same.
for example, this is from my spreadsheet:
5.3%
5.3%
4.6%
4.3%
3.6%
3.3%
3.3%
2.7%
2.7%
2.7%
2.3%
above are the weekly results of my body fat %. my lean body mass stayed roughly the same, my overall weight dropped, but my body fat % decreased. even if these numbers are off by 1-2%, i can still tell that i'm making the progress i want.
i would just like to say once more...
anyone interested in losing fat should FIRST FIGURE OUT HOW MANY CALORIES YOU NEED, THEN MONITOR THEM. protein/carb/fat ratios are important, but SECONDARY to CALORIES.
i could lose fat eating nothing but cake and ice cream. i'm NOT claiming this is the healthiest, just making a point.
btw, earlier TM_Direct implied that i don't know what i'm talking about. go ahead, TM_Direct, IGNORE SOMEONE'S ADVICE WHO HAS ~2.3% BODY FAT!
anyone interested in losing fat should FIRST FIGURE OUT HOW MANY CALORIES YOU NEED, THEN MONITOR THEM. protein/carb/fat ratios are important, but SECONDARY to CALORIES.
i could lose fat eating nothing but cake and ice cream. i'm NOT claiming this is the healthiest, just making a point.
btw, earlier TM_Direct implied that i don't know what i'm talking about. go ahead, TM_Direct, IGNORE SOMEONE'S ADVICE WHO HAS ~2.3% BODY FAT!
Im just amazed that Gordo has 2.5% body fat.....Did you know that he is in better shape and has less body fat then jerry Rice?? LOL.....jerry is known for his incredible workouts and running up hills in calif with a log on his back...but GG is in better shape....In all seriousness, GG...The fat measure is wrong,,,,unless you are being measured by a physician you are getting the same results that a SPECIAL K user gets when they try to pinch an inch...to put it in perspective, assuming you are 200 lbs that means only 4lbs of your total mass is fat...that would also mean you would most likely walk around cramped all day because there are no reserves to burn.