Trading times for Monday trough Friday

Quote from Girlpower:



In defence of Walter here.

I've just pulled up a 1 min chart of NQ and looked at 10:40 EST with 8 CCI.

At 1540 exactly there was a tiny short scalp for 1-1 1/2 points, However, there was a very tradable long for 3-4 points at 1043/1044 EST with a good CCI signal. Yes, it was a continuation inside a bigger trend, but nevertheless there. In my view a good entry point into a relatively low risk trade. Take a look at the 1 min NQ to see it. Also - he did state at the beginning of the week he was calling times for Naz and not ES or Dow.

Also, I'm sure he can be forgiven for being there 2-3 minutes early (in time to see the signal and take the trade)...


Exactly, 10:40 is a setup and CCI divergence and or MA crossover are the triggers, so actual trade might take place when divergence and or crossovers are complete which might take 10 - 20 min . or 2-3 min as today.
Thanks Natalie
Walter
 
Quote from Quah:



There lies the rub. A "call" will only be proven correct at the exit - the the "calls" as we get them are only for the entry.

If the "call" is intended to give only 1 or 2 NQ points, then you are right - they can't be that significant. I also assumed the times were supposed to be at significant points of reversal or continuation.

Trading times are designed to be profitable. Not significant of glamorous. Just safe and profitable . Good enough for average Joe who wants to trade and not to lose his butt . Safe and profitable method even for beginner trader.

I consider trading time call correct when there is either 8 CCI divergence or 10 or 21MA crossover .
You understand that if I make that call one day ahead all I am looking for is a reasonable accuracy.
If I can do these kind of calls one day ahead, It is reasonable to expect that I can be more accurate lets say 10-20 min ahead ?
Thanks,
Walter
 
Quote from Walther:



I consider trading time call correct when there is either 8 CCI divergence or 10 or 21MA crossover .

I would consider it correct if it presented an opportunity to make money. Not if some indicator showed something on a chart.

Again, if you are just looking at scalping a point at the trading times, more power to you. I misunderstood the system and the significance of each time. Sorry for all of the confusion.
 
Quote from kernan:



I would consider it correct if it presented an opportunity to make money. Not if some indicator showed something on a chart.

Again, if you are just looking at scalping a point at the trading times, more power to you. I misunderstood the system and the significance of each time. Sorry for all of the confusion.

My understanding of the times being called is that about that time, there will be a good setup for a reasonable trade.

So far, at around the time of Walter's calls there has been a set up that has worked out well. However, it has not always been exactly at the time given, and more often been a few minutes away (either side in fact). I see the times as approximate and a useful guidance.

I would certainly never try and place a trade exactly at those times unless there happened to be a good signal at exactly that time. It's the signal that counts IMO not the precise moment it occurs.

Ok, now Walter, I do think you need to be very clear about what you are expecting from the trading times, so as there is no more confusion, and also be clear as to whether you are calling exact times or whether there is a small window of time involved in which a signal is likely to occur, because I am unclear on those myself.

Thanks

Natalie
 
Quote from Girlpower:



My understanding of the times being called is that about that time, there will be a good setup for a reasonable trade.

Ok, now Walter, I do think you need to be very clear about what you are expecting from the trading times, so as there is no more confusion, and also be clear as to whether you are calling exact times or whether there is a small window of time involved in which a signal is likely to occur, because I am unclear on those myself.

Thanks

Natalie

Well, I think walter said above to give or take 20 minutes.

Now, using a 1 minute chart of NQ, I'd expect there to be a signal of some sort within 20 minutes of ANY TIME given.

Using a 5 minute chart or NQ, the signals will be fewer and farther between. So giving a time where there is a signal within 20 minutes on a 5 minute chart would be more significant.

So again - it depends on what the point of this is.
 
When Walther posts ES times next week make this observation:

1) 1 hour before the projected time spreadsheet the price of the ES.

2) 1/2 before the projected time spreadsheet that price too.

3) Subtract #1 form #2 if the answer is positive go long 20 min before Walther Signal time. Short for vice versa.

4) Track the MAE MFE and calibrate your stops and targets based on the statistical iformation. Perhaps Walther has some times to backtest with.

5) Subscribe to Walthers service (Trading Times) when he gets it up and running.

6) Buy Metoox's house in the Bahamas after he moves to europe.

Michael B.

P.S. If a person is willing to post like this one day before the trade...it is worth looking into. The information that Walther is posting is enough for me to do further study with....and Thank you Walther
 
There was a great point made a couple posts up: a trade setting up within 20 minutes of the call time can happen at just about any point in time on a 1 minute chart.

Walt(h)er has mentioned that the call times can be taken from 1m or 5m. THIS is where the confusion lies for me.

For example, the 10:40 call had a very small short which might have been caught if trading from a 1m chart and the exact bar break lower was caught and the exact low was caught.

However, a couple minutes later, there was a break higher for 3 to 4 points.
 
Quote from Quah:



Well, I think walter said above to give or take 20 minutes.

I never said that. Do not put your words into my mouth. Unless you are trying to misrepresent...

Walter
 
Quote from Walther:

Quote from Quah:



Well, I think walter said above to give or take 20 minutes.

I never said that. Do not put your words into my mouth. Unless you are trying to misrepresent...

Walter

I have found that within a few of minutes of each of the times called so far there has been one of a number of things occur.

Dirction shift (good to get in on), top or bottom called (again good toget in on), change in character from maybe trending to chopping or vice versa (again a good signal to either get in or walk away completely) or a good entry point into a continuation.

So, I can't help but take the times seriously and be aware of the possibilities as they arrive. As to always taking a trade at exactly that point in time, I'm much less sure.

Thank you Walter for publishing all this and please keep on doing it. It is indeed very interesting and hard to ignore.

The stated aim (as I undertsand it) of using times like this as predictive seems to have become a little blurred. The aim was to find the times that are most likely to produce a decent trade, so that a person does not need to sit in front of a computer all day looking for trades, but merely visit the computer maybe twice or 3x, find a trade quickly, take it and then go and do something e;se and come back for the next one. Basically having more of a life outside trading. A framework of when the trades are most likely to happen easily, is a good idea.

I think the whole thing merits a lot more investigation and testing.

Natalie
 
Quote from ElectricSavant:

When Walther posts ES times next week make this observation:

1) 1 hour before the projected time spreadsheet the price of the ES.

2) 1/2 before the projected time spreadsheet that price too.

3) Subtract #1 form #2 if the answer is positive go long 20 min before Walther Signal time. Short for vice versa.

You are very observant! Because Trading Times are very often on intraday swings high or low, if you have another high/low 20-15min before Trading time ( depends on average time span between H/L for particular market ) you might take it and use Trading time as an exit.

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5) Subscribe to Walthers service (Trading Times) when he gets it up and running.

Actually I am thinking about it, not sure if there would be enough interest. Maybe we should do a poll on how many people would like to participate.
Walter
 
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