Trading the Pivots

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George Angell books are good, I think. I read both of them years ago. Interesting fact. He got into big trouble with the CFTC a few years ago for selling a trading system that he said he had traded with real money when in fact he had only done simulations. I wasn't so impressed with him after that...:(

You sure that was George and not Franz Shoar?
 
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You sure that was George and not Franz Shoar?

Release : 4628-02 (CFTC Docket No. # 02-10)
For Release: April 4, 2002

Florida Commodity Trading System Developer and New York Publisher Settle CFTC Fraud Action

CFTC Finds that George Angell, TradeWins Publishing and its President, Stephen Schmidt, Fraudulently Marketed Commodity Trading System

Washington, D.C. – The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) announced today the acceptance of offers of settlement from George Angell, of Key West, Florida, TradeWins Publishing Corp. (TradeWins), of Smithtown, New York, and its president, Stephen A. Schmidt, of St. James, New York. In an action filed on March 6, 2002, the CFTC issued an order simultaneously instituting and settling an administrative action against Angell, a developer of commodity futures trading systems. In a second action filed on April 4, 2002, the CFTC filed an order simultaneously instituting and settling an administrative action against TradeWins, a publisher and marketer of investment related books and products, and Schmidt, TradeWins’s president. In each order, the CFTC finds that Angell, TradeWins and Schmidt fraudulently marketed Angell’s trading system.

The orders accompanying the settlements find that for approximately a three-year period beginning in January 1996, Angell, TradeWins and Schmidt fraudulently solicited members of the public to purchase a version of the LSS Day Trading System (“the LSS System”), a signal-based computerized commodity futures trading system. According to the orders, the public was solicited through a series of promotional brochures, which falsely represented that the LSS System’s performance record was based on Angell’s actual commodity trading. In fact, the orders find that the performance results were derived from hypothetical back-testing. The promotional brochures further suggested that prospective customers could review Angell’s personal trading account records when, in truth, these records were not available, according to the orders.

The orders further find that the promotional brochures falsely represented that the LSS System’s performance results had been independently audited and verified. In fact, according to the orders, the firm that purportedly verified the results was not independent. Rather, the orders find that the firm had a financial interest in the success of the LSS System because it was compensated on the basis of the profits earned by the sale of the LSS System.

The CFTC orders find that by such conduct, Angell, acting as a commodity trading advisor, defrauded clients and prospective clients, and that Schmidt aided and abetted that fraud, in violation of the Commodity Exchange Act (CEA) and CFTC regulations. The orders find TradeWins responsible for the fraudulent actions of its officer, Schmidt. Angell, TradeWins, and Schmidt consented to the entry of the orders without admitting or denying the findings therein.

The CFTC orders:

direct Angell, TradeWins and Schmidt to cease and desist from further violations of the CEA, as set forth above;
require Angell to pay a $50,000 civil monetary penalty within ten business days of entry of the March 6, 2002, order and to agree not to seek registration for a period of three years;
require TradeWins and Schmidt to jointly and severally pay a $100,000 civil monetary penalty within ten business days of entry of the April 4, 2002, order; and
require them to comply with certain undertakings, including undertakings that prohibit them from making misrepresentations regarding profits and risks associated with trading futures or options.
A copy of the CFTC orders may be found at http://www.cftc.gov

The following Division of Enforcement staff members are responsible for the case:
Joseph Rosenberg
Christina Kang
David Acevedo

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Case Contact:

Charles J. Sgro
Regional Counsel
Division of Enforcement
Eastern Regional Office
(201) 234-6926


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Wow, cool info but I was just joking because me and JJ both did the Traders International course and then found out the Franz was trading on a simulator as well.
 
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Wow, cool info but I was just joking because me and JJ both did the Traders International course and then found out the Franz was trading on a simulator as well.

Yeah, I heard about that. I thought you were serious so I thought I better post my evidence as I don't go around accusing people of stuff without grounds. LOL.

Personally, I am not a fan of taking courses on the market, but if it worked for you good luck. I think most people just waste thousands of dollars by taking courses, generally speaking.
 
Quote from LondonUSTrader:

Yeah, I heard about that. I thought you were serious so I thought I better post my evidence as I don't go around accusing people of stuff without grounds. LOL.

Personally, I am not a fan of taking courses on the market, but if it worked for you good luck. I think most people just waste thousands of dollars by taking courses, generally speaking.

They do watse money on these courses. I just did it so I could learn about the emini market. I didn't know anybody that was trading it that I could ask at the time.

But I aint gonna accuse you of anything...
 
Quote from LondonUSTrader:

George Angell books are good, I think. I read both of them years ago. Interesting fact. He got into big trouble with the CFTC a few years ago for selling a trading system that he said he had traded with real money when in fact he had only done simulations. I wasn't so impressed with him after that...:(

Yeah yeah yeah.

I know all about the lawsuit and stuff.

That doesn't invalidate the quality of the information, though.

There's some pretty decent stuff there, certainly cheaply enough explored for the cost of less than an ES protective stop ...

(But thanks for the research effort).

Best,

JJ
 
For Tuesday, 09/05/06

Market Status

Pivot Trend: Bullish

1st Resistance: 1318
Median Pivot: 1314
1st Support: 1311

Current Trend: Down
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Tuesday was an Up day ... I'll take it.

We caught the double bottom off the Pivot and I decided to "double-up on" it, not something I'd advise as a habit, but as you get a greater feel for trading the system, you know when to bet larger.

While I expect some profit taking, I don't think there'll be much. Price action is already at the Pivot, I think it still has a little further to go before traders decide to step in and start supporting it ... like say to 1311. If it drops further down though I'll have to reassess, and may not trade until price action moves back up through S1 (if price action drops through it and if it comes back up).

Sounds ... wishy/washy? Naw, it's a pre-set game plan based on If/Else/Then Logic designed to give the trader a mind-set which will enable him/her to react quickly based on a number of different scenarios when the opportunity arises during the day's action.

The market won't give you much time to reflect before making a trade, so I always like to review my X's and O's before the game begins.

See you at the open.

Best Regards,

Jimmy Jam
 

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Yeah yeah yeah.

I know all about the lawsuit and stuff.

That doesn't invalidate the quality of the information, though.

There's some pretty decent stuff there, certainly cheaply enough explored for the cost of less than an ES protective stop ...

(But thanks for the research effort).

Best,

JJ

I never said it did invalidate the quality of information. If you read my first sentence I said it was good information.

However, when you recommend a book I think background on the author is of interest, especially when he has a dubious past.

Cheers.
 
Quote from LondonUSTrader:

...However, when you recommend a book I think background on the author is of interest, especially when he has a dubious past...

Nope, I don't think it matters one bit.

What matters is the method.

It either produces results, or it doesn't.

But hey, that's my experience :) .

Later,

JJ
 
Hey Folks, the last daily updated should read:

For Wednesday, 9/6/06

(those 3am postings ...)
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Well here we are with a neat little gap down to S2, hmm let run some numbers and I'll be right back to ya.

Later,

JJ
 
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