Just be careful not to go on tilt and dump a bunch of money chasing losses foolishly, really easy to do. I actually even posted a thread about me doing it last week and I've been doing this for 5 years and full time the last 2 or so.
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Trading the E-mini: Results Comparison
- Thread starter GoldenEagleTrading
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Best start to a Thread -- ever. Congrats GodenEagleTrading. Provocative, add some "non-believers" which has already happened and you have the start of a monumental thread. Not that it was your goal or intention to have that "honor" but none-the-less -- you are on your way. Thanks for your efforts in posting this thread. And the fact that you already have a good poster like @algofy this hopefully will have another benefit of showing the mindset of smart risk takers who use broker accounts like Infinity, Global and others offering $500 per contract loss limits on the ES and NQ. When this thread matures I will add an example of a young man who has "been there and done that" You have outlined your goals and set forth the premise.
A quick comment regarding "So here's a question for you ultra-experienced elite futures traders. Why has the best "managed futures" hedge fund been able to eek out only a 22.78% Annual Return(according to HSBC data compiled for 2016-see below)" It is much easier for the individual retail trader to do so than the large institutional trader -- for many reasons.
A quick comment regarding "So here's a question for you ultra-experienced elite futures traders. Why has the best "managed futures" hedge fund been able to eek out only a 22.78% Annual Return(according to HSBC data compiled for 2016-see below)" It is much easier for the individual retail trader to do so than the large institutional trader -- for many reasons.
Thx. No way. After my previous experience, I'm very, very cautious. Going to keep it at one contract and build my account. I'm hurting. It's taken me so long to get to a point where I'm comfortable with my strategy that I've practically run myself into the ground. Having little money this second time around has forced me to come up with a high probability/low risk strategy. (Risk/Reward 1:1, sometimes 1:2). I may be offering a "trading futures in a nutshell" seminar for $500 if you or anyone is interested (satisfaction guaranteed or your money back) before I get going, then I'm gone. Glad to hear your doing well for real.
Thank you, MACD.
Thx. No way. After my previous experience, I'm very, very cautious. Going to keep it at one contract and build my account. I'm hurting. It's taken me so long to get to a point where I'm comfortable with my strategy that I've practically run myself into the ground. Having little money this second time around has forced me to come up with a high probability/low risk strategy. (Risk/Reward 1:1, sometimes 1:2). I may be offering a "trading futures in a nutshell" seminar for $500 if you or anyone is interested (satisfaction guaranteed or your money back) before I get going, then I'm gone. Glad to hear your doing well for real.
Very Much like your response and attitude. Congrats again GET
Yes, MACD, perhaps my numbers are not scalable to a big money "managed futures" hedge fund. But Tulip's 28% annual still seems paltry to me. You could go to the currency (fx) markets and move big dollars but I am wary of them as they are "over the counter" and not regulated by a US governing authority like the CFTC with ES and CL.
Will do. Thx. MACD.
Yes, MACD, perhaps my numbers are not scalable to a big money "managed futures" hedge fund. But Tulip's 28% annual still seems paltry to me. You could go to the currency (fx) markets and move big dollars but I am wary of them as they are "over the counter" and not regulated by a US governing authority like the CFTC with ES and CL.
Agree re the FX brokers. No need to trade FX Spot. Trade the FX futures, Then you have transparency and are not trading against an FX brokers platform, and trade desk.
Ok, I must be missing something. You said you are running a R:R of 1:1 or 1:2. What is your w/loss ratio and expectancy to get to a 100% return Dailey ?So here's a question for you ultra-experienced elite futures traders. Why has the best "managed futures" hedge fund been able to eek out only a 22.78% Annual Return (according to HSBC data compiled for 2016-see below)
when if I am able to scalp 10 "rookie" points off the E-mini daily or as algofy seems to suggest he/she is able to make 20+ points daily, those numbers amount to 100-200+% return on investment ($500 to open one contract) daily. That's between a 25,000-50,000% annualized roi nuking Tulip Trend Fund's and everyone else's numbers for that matter. Thoughts anyone?
- Tulip Trend Fund, LTD -A (managed futures): The $274 million managed futures fund managed by Progressive Capital Partners is up 22.78% (to 2/17)