Trading Technologies awarded patent for DOM

From Futures & Options Week, 1 November

Industry moves to avoid TT patent suits

Mike Topping, Laurence Davison

Two firms last week launched trading software they claim will help customers avoid patent suits from litigious ISV Trading
Technologies (TT).

London-based ISV Patsystems and Chicago broker Peregrine Financial Group separately launched trading systems that represent depth of market on an active ladder display. Both firms said their products do not infringe TT’s patents on its static ladder based MD Trader. Active ladder displays were the norm prior to the introduction of MD Trader in 2000, with Patsystems among the firms to offer it.

The moves come amid mounting concern over TT’s ongoing campaign of patent litigation, which has seen suits against two of its customers settled, with a suit against Espeed still being contested.

Patsystems ceo Kevin Ashby said he believed the introduction of his firm’s Reflector product would “put our customers and others in the industry at ease”. Patsystems has not been sued directly, but has been named in at least one of the other suits.

Sources told FO Week that prior to this development some of Pats’ large customers had considered dropping the ISV as a possible way to avoid legal action from TT. End users were apparently approached by clearing firms and asked what impact there would be if Patsystems was withdrawn.

Ashby told FO Week he was not aware of such discussions but
acknowledged that many firms were considering the impact of
the TT patents, which amounted to a “sword of Damocles” hanging over the industry. “It has created a great deal of uncertainty and, in a situation where people don’t know what is going to happen, they tend to do nothing, which is no good from a
commercial perspective.”

Reflector was unveiled to positive responses at last week’s FIA Expo in Chicago.

Nick Garrow, Patsystems’ head of sales, told FO Week, “we have probably done over 100 demos here and the feedback we have received has been very positive. We have seen some of the
biggest US FCMs here, and many of them have not only said
thank you for developing this work around, but are also pleased
with what has been added.”

Toshihiko Endo, head of system development at Patsystems
customer Nihon Unicom told FO Week he was confident that using
Patsystems wold not make his firm the object of TT’s legal attention. “I have seen a demo [of Reflector], and although I haven’t been able to use it live yet, I like what they have done,” he added.

PFG’s Best Direct Fast product was produced as a joint venture with ISV TradeMaven and uses a similar dynamic display to Reflector.

PFG ceo Russ Wasendorf told FO Week, “We’ve not only read TT’s patents in detail ourselves, but we’ve had them examined by patent attorneys. They have patented a static price ladder and combined that with some other claims; the technology we have does not use a static price array – this is dynamic. It moves as the market moves, and it’s not until you are prepared to implement your strategy… that the prices stop moving.”

Both Patsystems and PFG have applied for patents on their new functionality, but said they did not plan to use their intellectual
property as a revenue driver. “We’re not interested in seeing
someone else lose just so we can win – that’s never been our
approach,” Wasendorf said.

Ashby said he was also no fan of the use of intellectual property
as a revenue driver, but conceded that he could not rule it out
as a future strategy. “I would prefer it if we continued to make
money from the provision of products and services rather than
through IP. But I have shareholders to think of, and if that’s the
way the industry is going to go, we’d have to look at it.”

Although TradeMaven plans to generate revenue by selling the
new product to independent clients, Wasendorf said that at
present PFG has no plans to white label the system and sell it
externally, instead focusing on the firm’s “somewhere north of
40,000 customers” as a target market.

Patsystems’new functionality has been incorporated into the JTrader product, and will be included in the Trademark platform,
due for release next year. Ashby said the firm is not immediately
withdrawing its static ladder display and that it was up to firms to
decide whether to continue offering it to their customers.
 
TT , eSpeed , all these firms seeking patents and lawsuits are a bunch of f**ing crooks akin to mafia. I read this letter they sent to the exchanges threatening lawsuits if they don't pay a fee per trade. It's insane.

You can't award patents for things like this , this is a sham and the whole patent office is a joke.

I remember reading this TT founder interview in Active Trader, the guy was like: you just can't afford no to use TT, what a bunch of bullsh*tters . they charge an arm and a leg for exchange access and they still can't make money without lawsuits !!


this business is full of crooks

I think IB has integrity, the rest is 70% more or less crooked.
 
JTrader DOME has been replaced by something called Reflector, in a version upgrade. It's like DOME except that price ladder moves up & down to keep best bid/ask centralised. It's not easy to see (graphically) when price changes - I really hate it.
 
Quote from hank rollins:

the posturing by TT may result in FREE X TRADER for all of us !

man, don't complain.


hank

So you believe in a free lunch eh?

OldTrader
 
For those who are using Reflector in J-trader, how do you compare it with DOME? I think the static ladder is better. GHCO still offers DOME in J-trader.
 
Advantage Futures Reaches Agreement with Trading Technologies

CHICAGO, June 23, 2005 -- Advantage Futures LLC (Advantage) and Trading Technologies
International, Inc. (TT) today announced they have reached agreement ensuring there are no
issues between the parties regarding TT’s MD Trader patents. As part of the agreement,
Advantage has agreed to honor TT’s MD Trader patents. With respect to static ladder order entry
technology, Advantage has agreed to only use software from TT or from firms that have a
licensing agreement with TT. The agreement does not preclude Advantage from using or offering
order entry software from other sources so long as it does not infringe on TT's patents. TT has
agreed to absolve Advantage and its customers from liability for very limited past infringement.
Advantage has cleared over 100 million client contracts thus far in 2005. Advantage is the
number one firm in terms of electronic trading volume at the Chicago Board of Trade (CBOT) and
the number one firm in interest rate volume at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME). TT has
become Advantage’s primary provider for electronic trading software based on strong customer
demand. Approximately 99% of Advantage’s electronic trading volume has been executed
through TT’s X_TRADER® platform.

"Advantage has enjoyed a successful relationship with TT to date because of TT’s ability to offer
innovative, fast and stable products that provide traders with a competitive edge. One example of
TT’s innovation has been the MD Trader product, which has proven to be a great trading tool",
said Joe Guinan, Advantage’s CEO.

"Advantage respects TT’s MD Trader patents. Advantage believes the only responsible course of
action is to acknowledge TT’s intellectual property rights as validated by the U.S., U.K. and
European patent offices. By doing so, Advantage customers can focus on trading rather than
concerning themselves with the risks of patent infringement", continued Guinan.

"Advantage has been instrumental in the growth of electronic trading. TT has always respected
Advantage’s integrity, which is exemplified by Advantage acknowledging the innovation behind
MD Trader and its related patents. TT looks forward to continuing to grow its business with
Advantage by focusing on the demands of professional traders and institutional clients", said
Harris Brumfield, TT’s CEO.
 
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