Trading on "Instynct" (NQ)

Gut feel trading will kill you, as I tend to associate that term with emotional trading. I base everything on what happens at s/r levels and on trendlines. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Quote from bmwhendrix:

Gut feel trading will kill you, as I tend to associate that term with emotional trading. I base everything on what happens at s/r levels and on trendlines. Nothing more, nothing less.

Gotcha.

Only trade the NQ? Or any other equity indices?

Ever delve into something like spreads?

How long have you been trading? And how long was your "learning process" (time from start, through losing period, to beginning of break even period).

Thanks.
 
Quote from artfartdart:

Gotcha.

Only trade the NQ? Or any other equity indices?

Ever delve into something like spreads?

How long have you been trading? And how long was your "learning process" (time from start, through losing period, to beginning of break even period).

Thanks.

1. Now only NQ

2. No

3. Long time.

4. Who said I reached breakeven :)

If you are new to this board you may benefit from threads by Metal, Anekdoten, Nodoji, and many others who use PA if that is your leaning.
 
Quote from jimbo555:

what is "PA"?

my guess is "price action."

but my leaning isn't necessarily price action. my lean is whatever gives you a statistical edge. price action seems too subjective a term to tell a computer what it is.
 
Quote from bmwhendrix:

Gut feel trading will kill you, as I tend to associate that term with emotional trading. I base everything on what happens at s/r levels and on trendlines. Nothing more, nothing less.

Don't confuse gut feel, the kind that takes years and many thousands of hours to develop, with reckless emotional type trading where you chase the price around like a headless chicken.
 
Quote from artfartdart:

my guess is "price action."

but my leaning isn't necessarily price action. my lean is whatever gives you a statistical edge. price action seems too subjective a term to tell a computer what it is.

every trader trades from price action (PA), what is more fundamental than price in action. "PA" is one of those BS terms that literally means nothing: every trader trades from PH (ie, price history) :)
 
Quote from bmwhendrix:

We are on the same page. :)

Gut feel means you don't know [on a conscious level] why the hell you're doing what you're doing.

But on a deeper level, the trader's CNS does "know", and is making decisions based on combination of new sensory input + "hard-wired" previous experience.

The trader's reaction is codified somewhere in his CNS.

It's not magic.

A little (or a lot) of introspection might bring those patterns to light, the trader could codify them in WINdows

My experience is that's not an easy thing to do; you see i'm a gut feel trader :)
 
i'm willing to place every trade of mine here Tues, all based off my gut, if anyone is interested.

i know i'll be satisfied.

but you must reply here. otherwise, forget it.
 
Quote from artfartdart:

my guess is "price action."

but my leaning isn't necessarily price action. my lean is whatever gives you a statistical edge. price action seems too subjective a term to tell a computer what it is.




art, you have hit on a very key element to PA trading. It is not easy to tell a computer what it is, therefore it is not easy to program. That is why people use various indicators that are easily programmable, but never quite get it right.

Oh, and PA has different meaning to different traders.

I believe if I can reason through a logical process, then it can be programmed. I can reason through hits on a trendline, but I can not program it. Why? Because the rules keep changing, as price morphs from one fractal to another. Same reason that A crossing B worked last week, but now gives steady losers. What you identified as a major TL or channel last week, turns out to be a corrective wave this week using the same rules.

What might appear very simple, quickly gets complicated, and causes many traders to adopt the view that PA trading is BS. It is more of an art and study of human behavior I think than it is a science. But you will make your own decision. I'm just here for the picnic and chicken salad. :)
 
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