Trading needs the same "revolution" that martial arts went through 15 years ago

simulators = doing kata = mostly waste of time
trading = real fighting

If you ever want a mind blowing experience, walk into your local BJJ school and ask to roll with the BJJ black belt there as your intro to decide if you want to sign up.
Tell him you want proof this stuff really works and want him to take you out as fast possible LOL.

The feeling of complete domination and helplessness is mind boggling. The technical ability these guys posses can not be described in words.

You are like a tiny child in their hands, even if they are half your size. Its amazing being subbed every 5-10 seconds as if they are not even trying. You literally have no chance. Its an amazing art that doesnt compare to anything else.

Even against a muay thai fighter, who would destroy you, if you are tough, you can take some punishment before he finishes you. But a BJJ black belt can finish you in 3 seconds or less quite ofte without ever throwing a single punch.
 
It was a rear naked choke, the "mata leon" and he put you to sleep in a few seconds. Its trivial to get on people who dont know BJJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlXJjb7hiFI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l7wpQH77JE

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I do recall walking out of my first black belt in karate, in junior high school, thinking I was the shit. Don't mess with me, man. I was a bully for my first year of puberty. I had the body and a black belt and thought Karate Kid ruled.

Then I met a taller kid, my age, who was being teased for being taller than everyone else. He took it in stride, tried to just walk away from trouble, including girls pushing him because he seemed like such a punching bag. I thought I would uphold my image at school and joined in. I did more than push him. I cornered him (first mistake) and slapped him. His face went straight and he warned me to not do that ever again. I laughed, and did it again.

30 minutes later, I woke up on the ground. He was gone. My sides hurt and my breath was gone. He had seized me into a full nelson with shark bites and something else I don't remember. He brought back a teacher to help. He asked how I felt. Different, I said. Different, indeed. The following week, he and I were friends and he introduced me to BJJ that his dad taught him from an early age.
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It was a rear naked choke, the "mata leon" and he put you to sleep in a few seconds.
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In 1979 it was called a full nelson in my school. And the video you posted did not demonstrate a full nelson.
 
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In 1979 it was called a full nelson in my school. And the video you posted did not demonstrate a full nelson.
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The full nelson is a wrestling hold still used today, and it can not choke you out. You said the kid learned BJJ from his dad, so it was a mata leon/RNC

Virtually all the BJJ chokes are blood chokes designed to make you unconscious in a few seconds. Air chokes take too long.

Well actually, now that I think about it, you could possibly modify a full nelson into a blood choke. Id have to try it to be sure, but I see how it could work.
 
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I can easily tell you do not know how to trade.
What i am saying is that trading is intellectual property. People are not willing to teach something if the end result of that teaching means losing the knowledge of what they taught and also the profits that came from that knowledge.
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It is you who is incorrect o little grasshopper.

A good strategy DOES NOT equal profitability.

A good TRADER equals profitability.

There is a difference.... a huge difference.
 
Quote from bjjtrader:

simulators = doing kata = mostly waste of time
trading = real fighting

If you ever want a mind blowing experience, walk into your local BJJ school and ask to roll with the BJJ black belt there as your intro to decide if you want to sign up.
Tell him you want proof this stuff really works and want him to take you out as fast possible LOL.

The feeling of complete domination and helplessness is mind boggling. The technical ability these guys posses can not be described in words.

You are like a tiny child in their hands, even if they are half your size. Its amazing being subbed every 5-10 seconds as if they are not even trying. You literally have no chance. Its an amazing art that doesnt compare to anything else.

Even against a muay thai fighter, who would destroy you, if you are tough, you can take some punishment before he finishes you. But a BJJ black belt can finish you in 3 seconds or less quite ofte without ever throwing a single punch.
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The trick I learned for the old school of Jiujitsu was to hold the guys finger and try to break it; he would have a very tough time dealing with you, submitting you in 3 seconds is not as easy as you thought.
 
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The trick I learned for the old school of Jiujitsu was to hold the guys finger and try to break it; he would have a very tough time dealing with you, submitting you in 3 seconds is not as easy as you thought.
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Go try holding a BJJ black belts fingers to prevent him from submitting you. Let me know how long it takes for you to wake up :eek: :p :D

There are no "tricks" in real fighting. Just techniques that really work and many that dont.
 
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There's so much bullshit out there that doesn't work (:coughwoodiesCCIcough: ) yet they keep bringing in more and more students who lose money (get their asses kicked) yet who honestly thought they were learning something effective.
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First time I have seen woodie called out on this forum. Just in time to GO BUY HIS $900 BILLION DOLLAR DVD! :D
 
Yeah, I remember having a similar insight when I read the claim in Market Wizards that David Ryan won some investment championship several years in a row. Now, I have no idea how the competition is set up, if it reflects anything useful, who enters it, etc., but you're right. There are few objective ways to distinguish between traders. On the other hand, there is definitely something to be said for mathematical tests of technical indicators and such. It may not tell you how they will perform when combined with other indicators, but it definitely is a step (albeit maybe just a little step) in the right direction.

The big difference between martial arts and trading, of course, is that martial artists have a motivation to show that their style is better. Martial artists have competitions. Traders, on the other hand, have a good reason to keep any insight they might have a secret. Furthermore, unlike with martial arts, where two people try to overpower each other using everything they know, there is no reason why dozens of traders can't simultaneously make money using very different strategies.

The analogy is good, but it only goes so far.
 
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