Trading is for dumb people

Ah, Jack! Welcome back! I applaud your determination to use your real name, as I do mine. ET has been SUCH a dull place without you these past two months. But I know why you are back. The members of the Tuksan IBD are just not in your class. How did they react when you said the dread word "short"? And when you said the f-word (futures)? Futures are for farmers? You cannot imagine how many of us have missed you (I mean your disloyal opposition). Oh, how my PM buddies have yearned for your return! Jackito, ergo sum! And if you are nice, I will teach you some extenstions to SCT I have discovered since your hiatus operation. My fondest regards to Liz, Kokomo, and Bogart. Mike.
 
Quote from kiwi_trader:

Because he lets his need to be smart get in the way of trading well.

I am thinking of compiling a list from this thread of all the traders who feel insecure about their intelligence ... but I might just be too smart to waste that much time on it.

Cheers :)

Hi Kiwi

I think you are one of the few, with the gift of enjoying life. I wish you all the success in your trading and the rest of your life's endevours
 
Quote from Cesko:

Africatrader
Next time, instead of saying trading is for dumb people you should write good trading is boring, you would get more positive responses and you would be saying the same thing, basically.
Now I understand little better why that EGO thing is so hard to overcome for most people.

Thank you Cesko, point well taken and I again apologise if I sounded boasting, not intentional.
 
Quote from sunggong:

Another multi-millionaire that finds trading dumb easy.

Not only that, so now trading is for people that are "desperate"?????

You got to be kidding. I'm done with this thread.

I did not say I am a multi-millionare. and that reply was to highlight that trading was not my main source of income and that I was not a fake.

Also being a multi-millionare is very subjetive, as you might know. where I am US$ 200,000.00 will make me a million and I know an Africa state where a loaf of bread will cost 1,000 000.00 in thier currency.

Goes to show it sometimes help to think dumb!! LOL
 
Quote from Grob109:

africatrader, Hello,

The thread was a fun read.

As you can see the ET crowd is mostly stuck in a place of little understanding.

It is difficult to say why so many people came to the forks in the road where they made poor decisions for moving along into the place where they are stuck now.

Choosing the work of Appel and Wilder, who have such small overlap, is an interesting construct and it applies well to a market. (I would not choose to trade this market, however, because of its potential).

Your method is kean (including the defaults chosen) and your results will continue to be on the mark.

You observe, well, the causes of failure in the ET crowd that engage with you. You nicely imply that most have never seen the market and fewer even get to rationally apply anything to trading because of their places in the infinite scheme of things. They provide a very thorough confirmation of how life style and irrationality continually derail any potential achievements.

It is strange that ET no longer has any capability to entertain an fruitful exchange that, possibly, could help a person out here or there.

Your approach, as a hobbiest, is simple, comprehensive (sufficient) and right on the mark as a result of savoring and digesting the input of others who were able to support the transference of the individual and integrated values of a sufficient set of tools to get the job done.

I am sure some of your character and attitude is conveyed positively to others who cross paths with you in your businesses and pleasures in your life. I have had a lifelong affiliation with Africa in many ways and it is rewarding me accordingly.

WHO is embarking on an effort soon (I have been invited to participate) so who knows maybe our paths will cross.

Your words are highly appreciated and I thank you for sharing your affiliation with the Mother Continent. Most certainly as the world is becoming a big village I am sure our paths might cross oneday. I also wish you success in your trading. it is also true that some members had a hard time to digest the true meaning of the thread, but they are entitled to agree with me, though they chose otherwise, which I respect!
 
Quote from hans37:

"Trading is for dumb people "



Awwe SHIT!
No wonder l find profitable trading challenging,I'm not DUMB enough.


My question is this can only inherently dumb people succeed, or can smart people become dumb enough if they really try hard?

Ironic.:Thread starter says trading is for dumb people, then goes on to describe his trading. hmm in my book that's calling yourself dumb. Who am I to disagree?

Hi Hans, please to meet you. Interesting statement, which brings us to the following.

If you write a book titled " How to fail" and the sales were horribly, I mean not a single book sells. Did you succeed?
 
To all those traders out there, who felt insulted by my remarks that trading is for dumb people.

What is your definition of dumb? Am I dumb because I use RSI and MACD or because you can't understand how I have such a successful system with "dumb" indicators. Is it because I do not use the FIBS, the GANN'S and the ELLIOT's, to be honest I do not understand them. Or do you feel insulted, because you think your doctorate, vocational training, or Master's achievement have not been respected. Or are you too intelligent to understand that you can apply the same intelligence to the markets as your conventionally self tries to tell you. I did not say you are a dumb Daddy or Mom.

We all do more or less the same thing, when we trade. We look at where the market is coming from and where it is headed to. That does not require intelligence. Next we gather information through whatever process to raise our probability for what we want to interpret the market is doing or going to do.

I do not adhere to the principal that one has to be an einstein to do that. when I was learning to trade I did what most did. Got to intimate with trading, trying to take it serouisly, one seminar to the other, over continental flights for a 2 day seminar, thousands paid in fees, and voila it hit me. The entire market is moved by the "belly parameter"

Success, food, more sex, coffee, moving to a better neigborhood, exoctic holidays, Pantom in the garage and the list goes on. The other trader? Trader with scare money, wanting to quit his day job, wanna move out from the getto, child maintenance issues, a pending divorce, fearing joblosses, being sued and what have you. That to me is the people in the market. What science is needed to a hungry man, and what mathematical equation is needed to sum up a wealthy man, when you see one? None.

Believe it or not, my approach to trading is based on the belly parameter. I can see this EVERYDAY in the market. I can also see when both this 2 groups are logger heads. it probably will not make sense to a lot of traders out there, but recently the local dailies did report about a farmer, (South African) who uses cellphone signals to locate underground water with a very high successful rate. Even in areas where the authorities has difficulty to find water. of course he does'nt wanna tell how he does it.

goes to show you.
 
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