Trading Intuition

Quote from Everest:

I still don't believe it has been quantified as scientifically as you suggest (isn't there another thread on this?) - but it could easily be you know plenty that I don't. More than likely in fact. I'd would love to know more, since I am a big believer in intuition.

My intuition really gets going when I hover around a price with my mouse, and from time to time my finger just clicks, like it has a mind of it's own. And mostly, I am very grateful for it.

Anyone else ever had that ?



not only has it been quantified, it can be taught and developed. dr. flavia cymbalista is on the forefront of this research. her website is www.marketfocusing.com read the articles posted on the site for a quick overview of what i am talking about.

surfer:)
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

not only has it been quantified, it can be taught and developed. dr. flavia cymbalista is on the forefront of this research. her website is www.marketfocusing.com read the articles posted on the site for a quick overview of what i am talking about.

surfer:)

I will, thanks
 
Quote from ChrisRT:

Trading Intuition is often a topic that I devote a little time for discussion to other traders when I speak with them about where they are in their trading careers. These traders range from the newest of newbies to the traders that I respect and continue to learn from. Intuition as I look at it is basically getting that "gut feel" that demands some response without really knowing why. It can be in any time frame.

Over the past several months I've lost what I feel to be the same intuition that I had in the 2000 and 2001 time period. I think it began right around mid-September (not really knowing how tangible it can be, it's hard to describe when I "lost" it).

I guess I'm curious to hear from other traders that have had enough experience to warrant real "intuition" that may have also lost it or even more beneficial, how they've adjusted over the past few months to keep it. I'm not really trying to assign blame, but rather look for possible changes that might have affected this loss. I don't think "the market changed" is really what I'm after as my time period for trading is somewhat smaller and I can pretty much find opportunties each trading day. I'm looking instead for something along the lines of "what has changed in the process" as my experience from before, isn't producing the intuitive impulses from time to time on the same degree as it did over the past couple years.

I don't wish to debate intuition as I realize some think it's crap. Rather, some ideas on where these impulses might have been masked are what I'm after. I don't try to push this impulse as I know it's a natural thing. I just don't find myself getting as many impulses in the last few months and maybe someone has some ideas.

Anyone with clinical information or traders with experience in cyclical intuitive impulses (much like win clusters or drawdown periods) I would love to hear from.

Thanks in advance,

Chris
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Chris ;

Sounds like you got in a different trading ride;
past several months have been sideways trend [range].

Drove a Nissan this year & 4/5 on the floor transmission is gear grinding different from Ford 5 on the floor.

Work hours & study & experience is certainly connected to intuition ;

as certainly as gear grinding misses in that new [to me ] Nissan.
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Part of the uneeded fog is a lack of recorded clarity whether it happened several months ago or in Sept;
that wouldnt bother me as much as drawdowns,because gear grinding is only part of monthly milage & annual milage plan .


:cool:

Course i dont remember the exact time of my gear grinding;
but know
in my knower work & study eventually helps with the
intuition.
 
I use intuition extensively in other areas of expertise and am very comfortable with using it. I think about the problem at hand, let my mind go blank and the answer bubbles up. Sometimes this takes time and the right "blank" state of mind, but eventually the answer just pops up.

The Zen-folk and new-agers make it sound like you're connected to a universal quantum consciousness whose benevolence graces you with special power over everyone simply because you know how to access it. (Very similar to praying to God for special privileges.) But over time I've detected patterns in my intuitive "answers" that point to patterns of very ingrained deep personal beliefs. It has become very obvious those "intuitions" are 100% learned patterns coming from me.

It's how brains work. Over time memories are aggregated, synthesized, and generalized into what we call the subconscious. Our brains are association machines constantly comparing the current situation to all those memories in an attempt to extrapolate what will come next. Accessing those memories without your ego getting in the way is intuition.
 
Quote from dpanic:

Sorry.. don't mean to be anal but as one who practices Native American shamanics.. it's Cherokee Shaman not cherekee shawman :)

tell us about your sweat lodge stuff.. or did you see that on gunsmoke?

Spelling is a big thing. I sometimes just type as to how it sounds and hope a that spell check would give me the correct spelling. I don't do spell checks on ET.

I don't think you, as a Native American, are anal about my typing. Missing by two letters is normal for me with rarely used stuff.

Seredipity has always played a part in my life. So you can imagine how my path has been very fortuitous vis a vis being in places that turned out well for me as time passed.
 
In my opinion, when I am sitting in front of my monitors there is far too much information to consciously process, 8 level twos, three quote boards, live market internals, 8 charts, and a live news feed - so it all goes in and my mind filters and applies the information behind the scenes and I come to a conclusion that is like a mental leap – I get a strong gut feeling about the market that is a function of the information coming in and being probabilistically bounced off of my past experience and knowledge – I find it to be very much like my days studying philosophy, I would be stuck on some difficult problem for hours, sometimes even days , when through some kind of abstract reasoning it becomes clear –I get my conclusion and work backwards to the original question –
That’s how I see market intuition – a series of abstract reasoning derived from the grey scale spectrum of past experience and knowledge.
The vast majority of my trades are based on intuition, or gut
 
I know what you mean if we're interpreting the word serendiptity the same way.

I had some experiences as a very young child while living in New Mexico that set the seed, then spent some time as an adolescent in South America where I learned more of the same. The reality of my experiences didn't really hit me until I was in my early 40's when it began to take form, it was interesting I wasn't really looking but over time it all began to materialize. It's a journey.

btw.. I'm not native american, only a small portion from my maternal grandmother but it was't a prevailing presense in our family.


Quote from Grob109:

Spelling is a big thing. I sometimes just type as to how it sounds and hope a that spell check would give me the correct spelling. I don't do spell checks on ET.

I don't think you, as a Native American, are anal about my typing. Missing by two letters is normal for me with rarely used stuff.

Seredipity has always played a part in my life. So you can imagine how my path has been very fortuitous vis a vis being in places that turned out well for me as time passed.
 
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