Trading in the US for 3 months on a B2 visa?

Quote from risktaker:

Risk what? He said he won't be employed. Is he paying social security taxes? Then he's not employed. Whatever he'll be doing in Chicago, he can do from anywhere else.
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Yep, that sums it up. I will trade for my own individual entity( lacks a better word as I don't have a company but just an individual status in France). I can do it from anywhere but here I will do it from my broker's office.
 
Quote from Now is Now:

If you had a B1B2 visa you would have had to provide a letter of comfort ...your sponsor saying they will be rsponsible for any debts inccurred...

If you start travelling backwards and forwards alway use a hotel name for lodging...NEVER a friends house..even if that is your intention...otherwise you send up a red flag...

NiN

P.S yes B2 is enough for what you intend to do..
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Thanks now is now,

My sponsor? My broker? He won't give me that kind of letter. He just provides brokerage service.

I think I will rent an appartment...
 
I recalled the embassy this morning to get a second advice( 14.5 EUR again ) and the guy told me the same thing. As soon as I don't come to work for a US entity or for studies, I just need a B1 visa. So I guess I am fine.
 
a. do NOT trade from your hotel or rented apartment

b. Take a wifi scanner, walk around the neighborhood and SCAN for open wifi networks. Once you are on, you can start trading the CME/CBOT , this way your IP is not traceable at least, there is no physical location the po'lice can get you at.

c. I'd advise you to bring a portable stool , this way you can sit on the floor while your laptop is on the stool.

d. Do bring an umbrella, rains sometimes in chicago.

Safest method to trade in Chicago on a B1 business visa.
 
Don't take this for legal advice, but as long as your account is registered at your permanent residence, this is no different than if I, a US citizen, traded my account at IB while on vacation in France.

Capital gains aren't earned income, as far as I know. So you aren't really "working."

Even worse, trying to go legit will just expose you to US income taxes.
 
Quote from TraDaToR:

Hello,

I will come in Chicago coming fall for 3 months. I am contemplating immigration and want to experience the city before going further. I will trade from my broker's office in the CBOT, along with meeting people, immigration lawyers and so on.

Which visa do you think I need ? I won't look for a US based job but I will trade on a daily basis in their trading room and this is my job in France, I am registered as an individual. I will trade the Chicago exchanges with my account in the US.

I called the US embassy and made it clear I would trade on a daily basis on my individual account, the guy told me a B2 business visa is enough. As a french, I have a visa waiver when it is less than 3 months.

I just half trust what the guy told me. Has someone tried to trade for short period in the US as a professional paying taxes in an other country? I am just super scared of being busted at the customs :" You are a professional. You can't work in the US. Good bye, Sir".

What do you think?

Thanks a lot.
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Sheesh, You open the account in your name with your french address and you can trade from anywhere in the world. No one cares what you do and you don't have to tell customs either. You are on Holiday! Don't make things difficult for yourself. No one is going to worry abt some french dude wondering what he is doing for his 3 mths holiday in the USA. Just remember to leave before your 3 months is up:D
 
Quote from MohdSalleh:

Sheesh, You open the account in your name with your french address and you can trade from anywhere in the world. No one cares what you do and you don't have to tell customs either. You are on Holiday! Don't make things difficult for yourself. No one is going to worry abt some french dude wondering what he is doing for his 3 mths holiday in the USA. Just remember to leave before your 3 months is up:D
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Given you have talked to embassy staff (I presume you have a recording), you always have defence that you acted on the basis of professional advice.

To put it simply, meeting customers is business, meeting business partners (like the brokerage blokes) is business. TRading is very difficult to distinguish from investing and investing you own money is not a regulated activity.
 
I would still follow my advice,

Trade with your computer on the stool, you sitting on the floor, on the pavement of someones garage using their open wifi connection.
 
Thanks guys, all valuable advices.

I don't have a recording of my discussion with the embassy, but I remember yesterday's guy name and I don't like to lie and say I am on vacation for 3 months, especially to the US customs. I just thought I will take a copy of my W8-BEN to show I never owe taxes in the US.

PS: If anyone in Chicago wants to rent an apartment from September 25th to December 18th, or sell/rent a PC with 3 screens , PM me:)
 
Quote from TraDaToR:

Thanks guys, all valuable advices.

I don't have a recording of my discussion with the embassy, but I remember yesterday's guy name and I don't like to lie and say I am on vacation for 3 months, especially to the US customs. I just thought I will take a copy of my W8-BEN to show I never owe taxes in the US.

PS: If anyone in Chicago wants to rent an apartment from September 25th to December 18th, or sell/rent a PC with 3 screens , PM me:)
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Good Luck.

How are you going to permanently immigrate to the US anyway? from my knowledge legally it is quite difficult, are you doing the 500k EB-5 route? The only other options i can think of is marriage-family or H1b,which you need an employer for.
 
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