trading help.

What times are you trading?

I am trading in the mornings (2am-4am cst) and then again from around 6am -10am.


You say that you are looking for volume imbalance and exhaustion.
How many quality trades are available in a typical day for you?
I am looking for small moves (10 ticks) +/- and there are plenty on most days. Of course if there are indications the move is strong I leave my runner open.

What challenges have you faced in trading volume imbalance and exhaustion consistently?
My biggest challenge? Imbalances happen on almost every bar; determining if they are a tell is difficult.

What is your best insight or clue that there is imbalance or exhaustion?
Imbalance is easy; Rancho has a volume impression (aka footprint chart) that will color any price that is a % above the corresponding price. Lets say to market orders hit the offer and 35 hit the bid it will highlight the 35 on the bid. Of course one price level imbalance means little; if you have a series of imbalances in on bar or neighboring bars it is something to watch.

I do not know if "exhaustion" is the correct term but when I see buyers drying up (or sellers) it is time to get ready. It is really sweet when there are 100+ market buy (or sell) orders sitting at a price extreme and the market moves away from them. The footprint chart is very helpful in that you can see how many traded right on the chart instead of trying to keep it in your memory. The perfect setup is buyers dry up, the offers firm up on the DOM, the bids start pulling and there is a noticeable shift to selling on the tape.
 
Hey Wartrace - If imbalances happen on almost every bar, does that cause you to overtrade? Are you filtering the setup or opportunity in some way?

Are you looking for the imbalance to move the market in the same direction or are you playing a Short Covering/Long Liquidation opportunity?

Since you see an imbalance on almost ever bar - Do you prefer trading an imbalance you find in a trend? Edge of a range? Breakout of a range?
 
I am the same Barnacle Bill.
Unfortunately when I first started in the room I traded terrible.
I am naturally a fearless trader but while in the room fear crept in.
The fear of being wrong in front of all those people.
I also took trades just for the sake of having something for the people to watch.

Assume you're not doing the jig room anymore? Pete find someone else?
 
No, I'm not-

I'm not sure that Pete is even looking for someone else.
The payoff to pain in the butt factor was not very appealing for him.

I should have come about it in a different way - So that I would have more prepared for the idea of my every trade being watched and scrutenized. It was thrown together pretty quickly. Pete was very encouraging and was willing to allow me to work out my issues but by the time I did the room was pretty sparse.

My bottom line was that I wanted to help people but there wasn't a whole lot of participation in the room. I might try it again sometime in the future but if I do I would trade more products and have the room participate more in alerting opportunities in different markets.

Pete is a great guy and he wants to help people become successful with his trading tool.
It was great working with him-
 
Hey Wartrace - If imbalances happen on almost every bar, does that cause you to overtrade? Are you filtering the setup or opportunity in some way?

Are you looking for the imbalance to move the market in the same direction or are you playing a Short Covering/Long Liquidation opportunity?

Since you see an imbalance on almost ever bar - Do you prefer trading an imbalance you find in a trend? Edge of a range? Breakout of a range?

I would call what I am doing sort of "scalping". Looking for 10 ticks on short term price swings. As I mentioned if the trade looks to be favorable I will go for more with a runner.

Imbalance is more of a "heads up" and not a trade trigger. It just means 300% (or whatever setting you want) more contracts traded on one side of the market than the other. You can see it on the tape just as easily HOWEVER it is nice to have it sitting on a chart right in front of you. It is more of a visualization of the tape for each bar.My memory isn't as good as others so the visual record is nice to have. Here is an ES example of a volume imbalance footprint chart on Rancho Dinero.
El-Duque-Volume-Impression.png


I see imbalances on almost every bar;individual imbalances mean nothing to me. When I see multiple imbalances in a single bar OR at the same price levels in neighboring bars it is time to pay attention. It is just part of order flow to me.

I look for the "real imbalance" (multiple imbalances) to be on the side where the market is likely to go next SHORT TERM. This is not really useful for anything other than short term trades in my opinion. So it works in trends, ranges and anticipating breakouts. Make sure you check the DOM on those breakout trades though; could just be an iceberg eating every contract that hits it. It would look like a huge imbalance.:D
 
Hi,I am currently trading these products.

US 10 YR T-Note Sep 11 (TYU1)
Gold Oct 11 (GCV11.CMX)
E-Mini S&P 500 Sep 11
Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Futures nov11

what all fundamentals i should consider while trading these products?where can i find live news feed about these products?
is there any free software to get live data(1min bar) of these products so that i can use some technical indicators on that?

My advice for what its worth is to concentrate on ONE PRODUCT ONLY. Play around all you want with various contracts as an exercise in self discovery but you need to pick one product and learn it. You will never have a chance if one day you try to trade the ES and the next you try CL unless you have years of experience in both.
 
OP (rockslife2008) made this thread on Aug 21, 2011

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wtf are some of you expecting him to reply


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Barnacle

Based on your posts

Appears you're shillin for students..., yet haven't figured out trading

I have a special place reserved in hell for shills


Hmmmm

RN
 
OP (rockslife2008) made this thread on Aug 21, 2011

Was last seen: Jan 12, 2012

Has 1 post to his handle

wtf are some of you expecting him to reply


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Barnacle

Based on your posts

Appears you're shillin for students..., yet haven't figured out trading

I have a special place reserved in hell for shills


Hmmmm

RN
:oops: Didn't notice the original post date. Sorry.
 
Curious..., what a jig saw room is / was


Thx
RN

Jigsaw is a specialized Dom for NinjaTrader and a few other platforms now. They also run an online room where people can pay a monthly fee to watch somebody trade. Bill was/is one of the moderators/traders in that room. I did a free trial several months ago to see what it was all about but it wasn't my cup of tea.
 
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