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Quote from smilingsynic:

Every trade in her blog for the month of June was for 2 points, and these appeared to be profit targets and not profits taken after trailing stops were hit.

I didn't see anything about risk management, position sizing, stops, etc, all essential items in a system.

Imo, having such small profit targets with a trend following system is a mistake. At least I would not/do not trade that way.

It's a personal preference you can trail it you can exit 50% of the contracts at 2 points the other 50% at 4 points etc.. it's depends on your style.. I feel better taking the safe 2 points and be done for the day in the first hour or two.
 
Quote from smilingsynic:

Every trade in her blog for the month of June was for 2 points, and these appeared to be profit targets and not profits taken after trailing stops were hit.

I didn't see anything about risk management, position sizing, stops, etc, all essential items in a system.

Imo, having such small profit targets with a trend following system is a mistake. At least I would not/do not trade that way.

Yes, for whatever its worth I agree. Clearly profit targets reduce the overall profitability of all systems. Perhaps Becky doesn't know that or (more likely) she may trade a small account and cannot scale out after two points (which is what I would try to do).

Finally, it isn't my system so I haven't done the research. I would want to know all the nuance as to expected range once you get 2 points (how often could you get 3 and more?) given the setup rules.

As I mentioned in a previous post, for me, I just don't care about the specifics. I am more interested in concepts to test. Most of the time people post and have never really tested the setups. That is why so many here fail. They never verify the concept over a varying market, and invariably whatever edge it might have breaks down quickly.

Thanks for the comments. Good luck in the markets.

Steve
 
1) Pretty girls can NOT trade. Exception being the daughter of a famous trader who then became an actress and GAVE UP Trading.

2) I can easily tell who are the real traders here for example ProfitTakgFool is a real trader and Jack H is not. So I would be happy to learn Profit's system since it would not be a waste of months of my time like trying to learn Jack speak.

3) For those that want to reply about that woman writing a forex trading book, all of those are fake bs. The only way to trade is with an edge. I have yet to meet a better forex trader than myself who has a verified system.


Quote from ProfitTakgFool:

ah ha, we're onto something interesting now. Telling me what you are looking for/at, even if you gave me more detail, doesn't do a thing for my trading and I mean that in a good way. If you are generating profits based on lunar orbits you still need some sort of talent. Trading definitely isn't X+Y=Z. Steve says trading is not that hard and I agree with him, but it's not that easy either.

I've tried to teach a lot of traders over the years and a few make it but most don't. I teach them the intimate details of my system and still only a few will get it. And, even the ones who do get it run into problems. There are many times during the day that I will pass up triggers that fit my system and take others that don't. It just comes down to intuition and experience. Intuition can't be taught but experience can make a fairly good substitute.
 
I'll give you an example of why this strategy is flawed.

Go back to 05/06

Examine the values at 10AM, as you suggested.

The rest speaks for itself.

Incognito

Quote from Trading4Living:

ok here is the deal... After the market starts I watch the ADVDEC Issues for a serious move in the first 30 mins. It happens 2 or 3 times a week that the ADVDEC rockets to a significant level let's say for example +6000 (in the first 30 mins) numbers might be different in your chart...

So if it moved that big within the first 30 mins (most of the time it happens in 15 mins) it means that the market is most probably will trend this day upwards.. so I get in early based on the price action.. ofcourse the price must move in the same direction as the advdec.. so if advdec hits the +6000 level withing the first 30 minsplus price action confirmed I get in and get my 2 points early in the day.

vice versa if it reach -6000 level this time I go short for 2 points..

now it happens like 1 or 2 times a month that the advdec hits the +/-10000 level in the first 30 mins
if that happens I ride the trade all day
making a very nice profit

that's it in a nutshell

don't expect me to teach every one here and give you the exact thing and coach millions here.. I posted the outlines so you guys know how I manage to make those trades.
 
Quote from oraclewizard77:
1) Pretty girls can NOT trade. Exception being the daughter of a famous trader who then became an actress and GAVE UP Trading.
2) I can easily tell who are the real traders here for example ProfitTakgFool is a real trader and Jack H is not. So I would be happy to learn Profit's system since it would not be a waste of months of my time like trying to learn Jack speak.
3) For those that want to reply about that woman writing a forex trading book, all of those are fake bs. The only way to trade is with an edge. I have yet to meet a better forex trader than myself who has a verified system.


That summarizes everything about yourself.
 
Quote from Incognito:

I'll give you an example of why this strategy is flawed.

Go back to 05/06

Examine the values at 10AM, as you suggested.

The rest speaks for itself.

Incognito

So a one day example where the approach did not work invalidates the whole approach? Are you saying it has to be 100% working all the time or it is crap? I know nothing about the OPs work or approach but your comment that one day it did not work does not really prove anything one way or the other unless you can demonstrate any indicator or filter system which always is right.
 
I chose one day as an example, lots can be found. There is no edge here.

Incognito

Quote from optioncoach:

So a one day example where the approach did not work invalidates the whole approach? Are you saying it has to be 100% working all the time or it is crap? I know nothing about the OPs work or approach but your comment that one day it did not work does not really prove anything one way or the other unless you can demonstrate any indicator or filter system which always is right.
 
Turns works at McDonald's along with Spydertrader and Jack H.

After work, they all go back to the home for the criminally insane.

Where of course, they are provided with internet access, to spread their madness on the new traders here.

Then later on, they take turns sucking off Jack so that he will tell them where he buried his $ billions that he made trading PVT.

That is why Turns old alias was semen breath. :D
 
Quote from Incognito:

I chose one day as an example, lots can be found. There is no edge here.

Incognito

I have no dog in the fight nor support the OP, just that finding some days where it does not work does not make the argument one way or the other.
 
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