Trading discipline isn't about fortitude. It's about conviction.

MarkBrown said:
i look at it like toilet paper - i didn't invent or make toilet paper yet i trust it do what it's supposed to do. i have conviction the tp will perform.

this comes from experience of knowing it's going to work.

if i blindfold myself and run across a freeway i can have all the conviction in the world but i will definitely be needing that toilet paper if i survive.
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Good Evening MarkBrown,

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Zvi_WholeBrainTrading said:
The key to trading discipline isn't fortitude. It's not about being able to repeatedly resist temptations, every day, over and over.
Trading discipline is about conviction. It's about really trusting your system with every bone in your body.

Most traders don't REALLY trust their system. They follow along when it's sunny and run for shelter when it rains.
Those who do their work to really know and trust their system inside out, don't need to struggle with it. They are instinctively drawn to follow it, for they truly know it works.

If you're struggling with any aspect of your system - it's a sign there's something there you're not convinced about yet.
Do the work to convince yourself, and then watch the discipline become so much easier.

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What you are claiming is very narrow perspective lacking any concern for broader implications that are affecting traders’ lack of internal control.

For example, some people trade because they like the excitement. Or some people want to subconsciously lose because deep down they feel unworthy. Etc.

Unless the trader’s underlaying motivation (driving force) is congruent with their trading goals, then their conviction in their systems won’t fix their discipline as you claim.

You’re teaching the same regurgitated stuff that everyone else is teaching. I don’t see a reason why people should pay you $250 per hour for this https://wholebraintrading.com/pricing/
 
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danielc1 said:
To really trust a system you need to understand what is does. So, you start from your beliefs, objectives, low risk idea and then the tools to implement your low risk ideas, that can be a chart, indicator, whatever. Most people do it backwards and start with what they think that they see from a chart or indicator and look for a statistical evidence that would look like an edge. That is the biggest reason why people do not trust there system.
It is not developed from beliefs and objectives, and therefore not understood.
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Good points + %;
its a bit like paper\notebook paper + envelope/ paper list :D:D.
Strange thing about market$, lots of logic, but some time much volume will trade on personal preferences.
Traders always paid up for Belgium Browning$, even though Asian made Browning , about 80or 88% as good .
No wonder , old Browning ad says ask a Browning owner\ i did + he said , he wished he had bought a Remington 1100,LOL/ Ok + did that.
Good sell\ a Belgium Browning, dealer glad to buy + sell quality, like a sailing or trading ship.
If system does not wok as well as projected, SPY, some times do SH..................;
;or some other benchmark .[Personal, like Israel's military victory anyway:caution::caution:]
 
Zvi_WholeBrainTrading said:
The key to trading discipline isn't fortitude. It's not about being able to repeatedly resist temptations, every day, over and over.
Trading discipline is about conviction. It's about really trusting your system with every bone in your body.

Most traders don't REALLY trust their system. They follow along when it's sunny and run for shelter when it rains.
Those who do their work to really know and trust their system inside out, don't need to struggle with it. They are instinctively drawn to follow it, for they truly know it works.

If you're struggling with any aspect of your system - it's a sign there's something there you're not convinced about yet.
Do the work to convince yourself, and then watch the discipline become so much easier.

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Hello Zvi_WholeBrainTrading,

Sorry, but I do not believe anything you are saying. This sounds like trading theories.

Please show me system you have great conviction about you are trading in SIM or with the real money.

Below is an algo system I am running I have great conviction about. But the conviction is being lost. I had really great conviction about this system in back test, so far in Forward testing in SIM I am drawdwon. Hopefully today is the start of recover of drawdown.

Now what do I do?

I do not believe you are telling the truth, because if you had great system you trust, you would not be a member of ET forum with us. You would not dare in a million years share your secret with ANYONE on this planet if you had such a great trading algo system. So its best to not state such things to us ET members with evidence.

Once I find such great system for myself, I would NEVERE EVER in a million years share on ET website anymore or give anyone advice on trading EVER in my natural life. It would be dumb of me because I know how very hard it is to find very great strong trading system. I will keep the system to get very rich for me.

There is just NO way in the world anyone making money in the ES market with a robust system is going to ever share that system or give advice. No way. I do not believe this. Because I trade the ES market everyday, and I could not ever see myself helping another trader on how to make money. It would stop me from making alot of money.

I would not even tell my kids I trade or family in fear they will want my Edge. I would not tell a sole in the world I am making millions trading the ES future market. It would be dumb of me to do that. Because then they will want me to teach them how to make a million dollars trading the ES Futures.

So I do not believe you are telling the truth.


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SimpleMeLike said:
Hello Zvi_WholeBrainTrading,

Sorry, but I do not believe anything you are saying. This sounds like trading theories.

Please show me system you have great conviction about you are trading in SIM or with the real money.

Below is an algo system I am running I have great conviction about. But the conviction is being lost. I had really great conviction about this system in back test, so far in Forward testing in SIM I am drawdwon. Hopefully today is the start of recover of drawdown.

Now what do I do?

I do not believe you are telling the truth, because if you had great system you trust, you would not be a member of ET forum with us. You would not dare in a million years share your secret with ANYONE on this planet if you had such a great trading algo system. So its best to not state such things to us ET members with evidence.

Once I find such great system for myself, I would NEVERE EVER in a million years share on ET website anymore or give anyone advice on trading EVER in my natural life. It would be dumb of me because I know how very hard it is to find very great strong trading system. I will keep the system to get very rich for me.

There is just NO way in the world anyone making money in the ES market with a robust system is going to ever share that system or give advice. No way. I do not believe this. Because I trade the ES market everyday, and I could not ever see myself helping another trader on how to make money. It would stop me from making alot of money.

I would not even tell my kids I trade or family in fear they will want my Edge. I would not tell a sole in the world I am making millions trading the ES future market. It would be dumb of me to do that. Because then they will want me to teach them how to make a million dollars trading the ES Futures.

So I do not believe you are telling the truth.


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I do not know you, but it makes me sad that what you have written here is true for you. There are no secrets to trading. Or maybe just one: You can only trade what you belief is true. But for every trade you take, someone else must think the opposite, otherwise there would be no market.
 
danielc1 said:
I do not know you, but it makes me sad that what you have written here is true for you. There are no secrets to trading. Or maybe just one: You can only trade what you belief is true. But for every trade you take, someone else must think the opposite, otherwise there would be no market.
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Hello danielc1,

Is the color of sky blue or is the color of the sky purple?
 
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