Trading couple for 3 years are harassed by UBS Bahamas, your help will bring victory

vanzandt said:
Wonder how the court thing is coming along?
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Thank you.
It is only two of them, even if somebody moved by antisemitic feelings adding three zeroes.
Credit Suisse
We filed Writ of Summons against Credit Suisse and they did not file the defense. Yes, it looks unbelievable but it is. At this point, we entered judgment in default of defence against them and we are waiting for the court date for assessment.
UBS
UBS - we filed new actions against attorneys personally for malicious persecution, against bailiff, liquidator, storage people.
The very important date is coming, we are entitled to have judgment in default, 65% of their defence is merial denial, which is prohibited by the Court rules. Plus the UBS still not produced our time and sales report, which means new Madoff case, fictitious trading proved, unless miraculously, after five years this documents will appear. Well, the Judge ordered to produce all the documents by 31 August 2018, and as for today, we can affirm UBS have not this prove. Let's see how it will be, next hearing in the Supreme Court, 12 November. By law and documents, UBS has no chance to escape, be the merit of facts, I hope the judge will have time and courage to exam properly all the documents and facts and do them justice.
Court of Appeal for struck out an order against us and hopefully repossess home - still not giving us a date. The last attempt of biased deputy registrar was to settle for the record - but she has no jurisdiction for doing so, she can not act on her own. So, no date.
Bot UBS and Credit Suisse, assisted by their greedy attorneys and liquidators are only hope that we will give up because of incredible hardship. Well, Universe is with us, few and trusted supporters moved by simple human feelings of truth and justice, so we are fighting.
Sadly, they keep working on the minds of new people coming to our circle, some scary advises, like it is only two of you- "you cannot fight two big institutions. You don't have money, how long you can keep going?" Well, it is not just two of us, Law is with us and those who like to make this world just a drop better and more honest are with us.
I am personally totally devoted to the rights of individual traders as rising class of free-minded individuals, courageous risk takers, ready to share and support those who are behind. Even if here on ET there are many barking entities, I know the real traders can only sympathize and support our case.
Thank you again for your question and interest.
 
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vanzandt said:
Is this about the cats?
Gotta admit... not a big cat fan myself.
Woof.
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Me either, it just happened, that we found them half dead and save and let them make first kittens before sterilization and they were so fast to reproduce, hi-hi.
Our dogs died...
And cats were given in adoption by UBS gang, very painful... Well, it's part of the war, of their illegal and unlawful methods. We even having now problem with recuperating our furniture - the storage by the order of UBS's liquidator is refusing to release it. Disgusting, inhuman.
And what hysterical poster hear was alluding become true - the house once get possession, was let run done, we have written witnessing now, it is curious how this ET's lier have connection and information even before us. I put him in the block.
 
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Real traders trade, your case has nothing to do with individual traders but rather your inadequate trading methods. If I make a horrible mistake with my order on my own and call the broker, I'm not going to blame them for it and expect compensation.
I've received compensation for orders before when it was actually the fault of the broker, no significant problems.

But I know I know, I'm an anti-semite for disagreeing with you (as is everyone).
 
d08 said:
Real traders trade, your case has nothing to do with individual traders but rather your inadequate trading methods. If I make a horrible mistake with my order on my own and call the broker, I'm not going to blame them for it and expect compensation.
I've received compensation for orders before when it was actually the fault of the broker, no significant problems.

But I know I know, I'm an anti-semite for disagreeing with you (as is everyone).
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Why you think that we made mistakes, why simply not looking into the documents, what is wrong with you?
Our case is absolutely case of the rights of individual traders! And the claims against UBS are so simple:
1. delay in executions which cost us of profit not taken, not posting numbers here, so to save your head from bolling
2. once we show them and insisted to be refunded and to have finally our electronic platforms the show has begun
Credit Suisse, the same plus charged only in fees and astronomic number for two months of trading.
But is it worth to mention it to you? be it your sympathy for Nazi or hate-envy for Jews, only you can help yourself to look on our case with the eyes of neutral just observer and a not pathetic accuser with no foundation.
I had a word from the very dear person here on ET, whom I respect and to whom I am thankful so this member defended you in my eyes and said that you are intelligent and expert, hope you will show that.
 
Coming back to this thread after a long gap - please, do I have this right?

You borrowed money to trade with. Profits from the trading were to pay for the interest.

Losses were made in trading and whatever profit or capital was available was insufficient to pay the interest on the loan. You said it was their fault, they disputed this.

The company started proceedings for breach of contract.

Meantime, as a result of this stupidly naive (or aggressively greedy) business model, the lender went into liquidation.

So you're suing the lender's parent company for the gains you missed out on from your trading?

Am I crazy?
 
tomorton said:
Coming back to this thread after a long gap - please, do I have this right?/QUOTE]

Certainly, but, please, with your eyes opened to the truth and not what your mind invented, as would be true in average but not in this case.

tomorton said:
Coming back to this thread after a long gap - please, do I have this right?

You borrowed money to trade with. Profits from the trading were to pay for the interest.
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Not only, nut to create important profit too and devote our resources to different charities, as we already started.

tomorton said:
Coming back to this thread after a long gap - please, do I have this right?



Losses were made in trading and whatever profit or capital was available was insufficient to pay the interest on the loan. You said it was their fault, they disputed this.

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No, was no any loses, all our trades are registered and we made the profit. And their fault was to execute always late our trades and once we claimed the refund the show started with all details of malicious and unlawful persecution.
How would you feel if your broker will deny the electronic platform to you in 2013? Will say that you can not trade futures? And at the end will execute your seven-digit orders in ETFs (DUST, FAS, NUGT) with delays up to 20 minutes?
And once you will demand the refund, they will block your trading, the requesting your fund four years before loan expiration, they, the broker, will go into the voluntary liquidation while obtaining an order against you by fraud and perjury?

tomorton said:
The company started proceedings for breach of contract.
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No, we are suing them for breach of contract. They went to the court, on the date which we were not informed about and lied to the judge, that
1. it was a simple mortgage and we were not paying interests - lie, the funds in our account was the triple amount of interests requested up to the contract expiration
2. that we failed to keep 50% of the loan on the account - lies, first because the amount plus what they suppose to refund was more. Second, because it could never be a binding condition for which they can sue. Especially, once the bank is in liquidation, declared in 2014, four years before our contract expiration.

tomorton said:
Meantime, as a result of this stupidly naive (or aggressively greedy) business model, the lender went into liquidation.

So you're suing the lender's parent company for the gains you missed out on from your trading?

Am I crazy?
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You are not certainly crazy and I hope you have a genuine interest to really understand the truth. Thank you for your time and attention. Hope answers above brought some light on your doubts. I am here and glad to provide details, after 4.45 ECT, trying to do something with our tiny capital and all the burden on my shoulders. Still, if we have it then it is possible. Nothing is impossible of what is coming to our lives - the Univers always hold us.
Please, wish me all the best.
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tomorton said:
Coming back to this thread after a long gap - please, do I have this right?

You borrowed money to trade with. Profits from the trading were to pay for the interest.

Losses were made in trading and whatever profit or capital was available was insufficient to pay the interest on the loan. You said it was their fault, they disputed this.

The company started proceedings for breach of contract.

Meantime, as a result of this stupidly naive (or aggressively greedy) business model, the lender went into liquidation.

So you're suing the lender's parent company for the gains you missed out on from your trading?

Am I crazy?
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I will post the reply after 4.45 ET. Thank you. you are not crazy, but i am afraid for now just missing the reality of what is happened.
 


Thanks mate.

Whatever the various purposes of the profits, you borrowed money from UBS Bahamas to trade with?

You did not make enough profit to pay the interest?

You say it was their fault due to late execution and so you sued them for breach of contract on this basis?

A mortgage is just a loan but I assume the word "mortgage" has been used because your house was the security for the borrowed money with which to trade?
 
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