Trading Computer

atticus · Mar 1, 2013

Quote from Doobs789:

Yeah I am willing to pay a (reasonable) premium for a turn-key rig. But want something "stupid fast, and very quiet." How does that comp compare to your Mac Pro?

I don't have it in the same room, but I would say the Mac is a bit faster and def quieter. I should run benchmarks. The FirePro 600 is a six-monitor card that runs $500 at newegg and can drop into the INTC server board from Puget. That 12-core Xeon rig is the way to go. Gotta pay to play.

I would go MacPro in a heartbeat, but they gimped excel on the mac.

Doobs789 · Mar 1, 2013

Quote from atticus:

I don't have it in the same room, but I would say the Mac is a bit faster and def quieter. I should run benchmarks. The FirePro 600 is a six-monitor card that runs $500 at newegg and can drop into the INTC server board from Puget. That 12-core Xeon rig is the way to go. Gotta pay to play.

I would go MacPro in a heartbeat, but they gimped excel on the mac.

Thanks. It comes down to this: i7-39xxk or dual Xeon E5-2620s.

I spoke with Puget today, the salesman I spoke with didn't think I would notice the difference, so he recommended the i7. But I am inclined to go Xeon anyway.

Other than the CPU, I am pretty sure I am going to go with 2x AMD FirePro 2460 video cards, Intel 520 ssd, 32 gb ram.

dom993 · Mar 1, 2013

Quote from Doobs789:

Thanks. It comes down to this: i7-39xxk or dual Xeon E5-2620s.

I spoke with Puget today, the salesman I spoke with didn't think I would notice the difference, so he recommended the i7. But I am inclined to go Xeon anyway.

In single-threaded applications, you'll be far better with a i7-39xxK.

If you truly have the use for 24 cores (hence the 2 x XEON), then most likely 32GB RAM won't be enough (even 64GB would be somewhat small).

ofthomas · Mar 2, 2013

Quote from dom993:

In single-threaded applications, you'll be far better with a i7-39xxK.

If you truly have the use for 24 cores (hence the 2 x XEON), then most likely 32GB RAM won't be enough (even 64GB would be somewhat small).

I agree with your statement about single thread performance and the 07-39xxK... specially because you can overclock it easily to 4.5GHz-4.7GHz with water.. and stable..

but I havent seen a 12 core Xeon yet... last I recall, we were up to 10 cores shipping... I will pressume you mean threads... which is the only thing that would make sense... also, the newer E5's will have 8 Cores and will compete in clock speed with the i7 above... but we are talking spending a pretty penny now...

also, memory is directly correlated to the application profile... and considering very little is known about what that profile is like... I dont see how anyone can argue for 64GB at present time... in any event, I sense the OP has a goal in mind and is merely taking whatever advice suits that goal, so I am bailing from this thread..

http://ark.intel.com/compare/64582,64587,63697,64594

cdcaveman · Mar 2, 2013

Quote from ofthomas:

I agree with your statement about single thread performance and the 07-39xxK... specially because you can overclock it easily to 4.5GHz-4.7GHz with water.. and stable..

but I havent seen a 12 core Xeon yet... last I recall, we were up to 10 cores shipping... I will pressume you mean threads... which is the only thing that would make sense... also, the newer E5's will have 8 Cores and will compete in clock speed with the i7 above... but we are talking spending a pretty penny now...

also, memory is directly correlated to the application profile... and considering very little is known about what that profile is like... I dont see how anyone can argue for 64GB at present time... in any event, I sense the OP has a goal in mind and is merely taking whatever advice suits that goal, so I am bailing from this thread..

http://ark.intel.com/compare/64582,64587,63697,64594

Goal? The guy wants a high end nice trade station and isn't sure if he wants a server build or a PC gammer style build... the goal is to figure out which is a better value as a "trade station". I think a server build is more appropriate myself... but even then my preferences are different then others...

dom993 · Mar 2, 2013

Quote from ofthomas:

but I havent seen a 12 core Xeon yet... last I recall, we were up to 10 cores shipping... I will pressume you mean threads

Yep, 6-cores w/ hyperthreading "equals" 12 to me

Scataphagos · Mar 2, 2013

Quote from Doobs789:

Thanks. It comes down to this: i7-39xxk or dual Xeon E5-2620s.

I spoke with Puget today, the salesman I spoke with didn't think I would notice the difference, so he recommended the i7. But I am inclined to go Xeon anyway.

Other than the CPU, I am pretty sure I am going to go with 2x AMD FirePro 2460 video cards, Intel 520 ssd, 32 gb ram.

FirePro 2460 requires that each pair of monitors be of the same model and set at same resolution.

ofthomas · Mar 2, 2013

Quote from Scataphagos:

FirePro 2460 requires that each pair of monitors be of the same model and set at same resolution.

he should be clear as to when that is indeed...

Important: When using mini DisplayPort-to-singlelink DVI adapters, quad output is divided into two pairs (displays 1 and 2 and displays 3 and 4). The displays used in each pair must be identical (with the same manufacturer and model number) and must be identically configured (with the same resolution). However, the display pairs do not need to be identical to each other - See more at: http://www.amd.com/us/products/work...v/Pages/2460-firemv.aspx#sthash.RVAHF9mz.dpuf

ofthomas · Mar 2, 2013

Quote from cdcaveman:

Goal? The guy wants a high end nice trade station and isn't sure if he wants a server build or a PC gammer style build... the goal is to figure out which is a better value as a "trade station". I think a server build is more appropriate myself... but even then my preferences are different then others...

you are not alone in that preference... a server build is more adequate and less costly... but everyone likes to have 8 screens and bragging right with toys... just like a car... rather than to focus on requirements most tend to focus on what looks good... but again, without knowing the real application profile... I am just spewing out nonsense ...

ofthomas · Mar 2, 2013

case in point...

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PowerEdge T420
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PowerEdge T420
Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2430 Processor (2.20GHz, 15M Cache, 7.2GT/s QPI, Turbo, 6C, 95W)
Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2430 Processor (2.20GHz, 15M Cache, 7.2GT/s QPI, Turbo, 6C, 95W)
No Operating System
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4 GB RDIMM, 1333 MHz, Low Volt, Single Rank [QTY : 4]
16X DVD ROM Drive

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PowerEdge R620
Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2650 Processor (2.00GHz, 20M Cache, 8.0GT/s QPI, Turbo, 8C, 95W, Max Mem 1600MHz)
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No Operating System
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500 GB SATA Hard Drive 2.5in Hot Plug Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
16 GB Memory (2x8GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs
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8X DVD ROM Drive
Broadcom 5720 QP 1Gb Network Daughter Card

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PowerEdge R620
Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2650 Processor (2.00GHz, 20M Cache, 8.0GT/s QPI, Turbo, 8C, 95W, Max Mem 1600MHz)
Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2650 Processor (2.00GHz, 20M Cache, 8.0GT/s QPI, Turbo, 8C, 95W, Max Mem 1600MHz)
No Operating System
Dell Outlet PowerEdge R620
250 GB SATA 2.5-in Hot Plug Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
4 GB Memory (1x4GB), 1333MHz, Dual Ranked UDIMM [QTY : 16]
8X DVD +/- RW Drive
Broadcom 5720 QP 1Gb Network Daughter Card

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Price: $3,369.00