traders who are deeply religious

Actually, it was Franklin Graham who said that. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9600878/ But I'm sure Pat did as well, that fucking knuckle dragger. How mature of you to resort to name calling, you are turning everything that is happening to you and directing it at me.. googling, high pulse, sweating, etc. Thanks for the laughs you old fart, btw, what's your P/L for the year? You sure do have a lot of pent up hostility, must've been a bad one for you, click click click, buy sell buy sell. Probably have a bad heart from all the stress as well, too bad there is no hell, it sure would be funny to see you there.

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This is typical of you, you fucking incompetent.

That was Pat Robertson....

"In the mind of Pat Robertson perhaps God is punishing New Orleans for its sinful
ways - Bourbon Street, Mardi Gras. But sadder still, not only has this been ...
the11thhour.blogspot.com/ 2005/08/pray-for-new-orleans.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages"

Now back to the question. Where is the credentialed mental health professional who will say that Billy Graham is mentally disturbed? I will wait a little longer, and give you all the rope you need to hang yourself.....:D

I bet your pulse is starting to race and your may be feeling a bit headachy. This must be your worst nightmare. Just keeps getting worse each time you try to type some stupid fucking excuse, you get bitchslapped......

Still waiting Einstein


Steve

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and the funny part folks, is that his general premise has merit. In fact religious zealots and religious extemism are in large part responsible for a lot of violence and countless wasted lives. Unfortunately for Stephen, he is a bad (very bad) debater, and apparently cannot just fold his tent and learn from his mistake.
Instead he has to hold on to his faulty logic like a bulldog with a chew toy. :D As we speak the poor bastard is feverishly combing throught the internet using google to try and find that one person who will say that Billy Graham is crazy. Yeehaw!!! for my next trick I am going to get him to go and wash his neighbor's car.....:D
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Once again you strike out

Franklin said that many of the problems were caused by lack of religious trainging.

Again you try to detour around the real question.....

I am still waiting for your expert mental health professional to comment.

and you are starting to get a little hot under the collar arent you?

You see I am just yanking your chain, but you my little sweathog, are taking it pretty damn seriously. and each time you screw up you are getting a little more agitated.

Maybe this is too much for you too handle? :D

All you have to do is come up with ONE credentialled mental health professional who will say that Billy Graham is mentally disturbed.

Can't you handle that.....Mr. Crowley?

Steve
 
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I know all about Jesus, I went to church for 18 years.
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Disappointing? :confused:

I wouldn't think the church system in the last 2,000 years was what exactly Jesus wanted to see.

The time, energy and money spent on church buildings, organisational conflicts among people, staff expenses. etc. could be better used to help the needy ones if every follower of Jesus is effectively a pastor and every home is a functional church, as Jesus would have expected His followers do. :cool:
 
Have you lost your fucking mind? From the page. apparently you cannot read.

Punishing the sinners?
Oct. 4: Franklin Graham, son of Rev. Billy Graham says Katrina was God's way of sending a message to a city of sin like New Orleans. Did God wish to punish New Orleans? Tonight's Scarborough showdown features the President of the Catholic League, Bill Donohue, facing off against Jennifer Giroux of Women Influencing the Nation. You'll be surprised at which one thinks God sent Katrina.

Also, re: jesus 2000 years ago vs. the current church. I don't give a shit what the taught. It is of no relevance.

Believers are immoral because they are "nice" simply to avoid eternal torture in hell. They don't want to accept the fact that mother teresa and hitler both share the same fate. Nothingness. You should avoid murdering people because it is the right thing to do, not because you'll go to hell if you do.

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Once again you strike out

Franklin said that many of the problems were caused by lack of religious trainging.

Once again you are wrong

I am still waiting for your expert mental health professional to comment.

and you are starting to get a little hot under the collar arent you?

You see I am just yanking your chain, but you my little sweathog, are taking it pretty damn seriously. and each time you screw up you are getting a little more agitated.

Maybe this is too much for you too handle? :D

All you have to do is come up with ONE credentialled mental health professional who will say that Billy Graham is mentally disturbed.

Can't you handle that.....Mr. Crowley?

Steve
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Well you are right. One of the problems is that people need to distinguish between SPIRITUALITY AND RELIGIOUS DOGMA.

Love to get into this but I have to slap Mr. Crowley around just a little bit more.

I doubt that he will figure this out, so in the end it will mean nothing, but you never know.

The truth is that religious extremism in any form, has nothing to do with the strength of your belief, but in how you interpret the teaching you embrace. Obviously Billy Graham is a strong believer in Christian doctrine. I doubt that he would ever engage in violence to advance his belief system. Al-Zarqawi on the other hand seems to think that it is perfectly OK to behead people to forward his belief system. Although i am not an authority on Islam, I am pretty sure that his "interpretation" isn't part of mainstream Islam. In any religion, there are extremists, who simply don't understand the main message of their own religion, or choose to interpret it in a self-serving way.

Steve
 
Mr. Crowley

Can we get back to Billy Graham.

You still havent supplied the name of a credentialed mental health professsional who will state that Billy Graham is mentally disturbed.

We are still waiting. And now you are starting to get very agitated....Now you are bringing in relative of Mr. Graham and perhaps next you will bring in his neighbors....Maybe his wife or daughter or his gardener, or his pool maintenance guy, or the guy who reads his electric meter, and on and on....

We are still waiting for your mental health professional to comment......

Where is that comment.....

Surely you can find that one comment....?

We have been here waiting for nearly an hour now.

Are you capitulating on this?

That would be terrible. It would mean that you are wrong.
and that Billy Graham is a relatively normal person.

Oh my God, what will you do then....?

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By the way, I did a search on google and found that indeed Franklin Graham did say those terrible things. There see that didn't cause me any problem. You were right. Now let me know when you get that mental health professional to comment on his father......:D
 
Your argument is disingenuous. Switching the subject because you just made yourself to be an ass. As I said before, I do not believe a diagnosis by a mental health professional is required for someone to be insane. There are lots of insane people that go undiagnosed.

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Mr. Crowley

Can we get back to Billy Graham.

You still haven't supplied the name of a credentialed mental health professional who will state that Billy Graham is mentally disturbed.

We are still waiting. And now you are starting to get very agitated....Now you are bringing in relative of Mr. Graham and perhaps next you will bring in his neighbors....and on and on.

We are still waiting for your mental health professional to comment......

Where is that comment.....

Surely you can find that one comment....?

We have been here waiting for nearly an hour now.

Are you capitulating on this?

That would be terrible. It would mean that you are wrong.
and that Billy Graham is a relatively normal person.

Oh my God, what will you do then....?
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You are in the minority sir. In every court in the land it is a credentialed mental health professional who must make that determination.

Most of us would rather trust the word of a credentialed mental health professional than you.. I know if it were my father we were talking about, I would ignore your comment and trust a credentialed mental health professional in a heartbeat.

Obviously you have no professional training. Judging by the increasingly agitated comments you post, your own mental stability is in question. How could you be judging the mental status of another person?

You need to get back to work sir, and find that one comment you need to prove your point.


Steve
 
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Believers are immoral because they are "nice" simply to avoid eternal torture in hell. They don't want to accept the fact that mother teresa and hitler both share the same fate. Nothingness. You should avoid murdering people because it is the right thing to do, not because you'll go to hell if you do.
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Who is going to object this logic? Probably none. :)
 
Agreed, now if Mr. Crowley could only answer the question at hand about Billy Graham.

Again, Mr. Crowley, do you have a credentialed mental health professional who will state that Billy Graham suffers from a mental disorder?

Yes, or No

Which is it....


Thank you

Steve
 
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