traders who are deeply religious

[cooldude]

Quote from Tradefox:

When bad things happen it is not because of God ... it's because of evil..
...

Damn, I am so ignorant that I need to ask:

Who made evil? Or did evil made itself?

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from Tradefox:

Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace and those that know him and trust him truthfully and honestly can do most things much more peacefully then those that don't.

simply not true. there is no evidence that believers can do anything any better than unbelievers. an example is the divorce rate. christians are no better than average.



A recent study by the Barna Research Group throws extreme doubt on these estimates. Barna released the results of their poll about divorce on 1999-DEC-21. 1 They had interviewed 3,854 adults from the 48 contiguous states. The margin of error is within 2 percentage points. The survey found:

11% of the adult population is currently divorced.
25% of adults have had at least one divorce during their lifetime.
Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significently higher than for other faith groups, and for Atheists and Agnostics.

George Barna, president and founder of Barna Research Group, commented: "While it may be alarming to discover that born again Christians are more likely than others to experience a divorce, that pattern has been in place for quite some time. Even more disturbing, perhaps, is that when those individuals experience a divorce many of them feel their community of faith provides rejection rather than support and healing. But the research also raises questions regarding the effectiveness of how churches minister to families. The ultimate responsibility for a marriage belongs to the husband and wife, but the high incidence of divorce within the Christian community challenges the idea that churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for marriages."

 

[Tradefox]

Quote from vhehn:

""but then why not thank the lord for losing your wife and child? If the lord is repsonsible for something as meaningless as trading, he is surely responsible for the other."

I already have. They dont need to witness the upcoming tribulation."

this man is thanking god that his wife and child was killed because he believes they will miss the so called tribulation and you call me disturbed?
do you have to give up your ability to think to believe this stuff?

vhehn

You play on words very well !

Where did you learn to do this?

Just think about that for awhile with your LOGIC and see what answers you get.

The truth shall set you free.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from cooldude:

Damn, I am so ignorant that I need to ask:

Who made evil? Or did evil made itself?

Isaiah 45:7 (King James Version):
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from Tradefox:

vhehn

You play on words very well !

Where did you learn to do this?

Just think about that for awhile with your LOGIC and see what answers you get.

The truth shall set you free.

as a baptist for over 50 years i have heard your version of the truth many times. do you think you can tell me something i have not already read or heard and thought through?

 

[Tradefox]

Quote from vhehn:

simply not true. there is no evidence that believers can
do anything any better than unbelievers.

Another PLAY on words .... lol

I did NOT say Christians can do anything better or worse then non Christians.

I said they are more PEACEFUL in times of stress if they Truthfully and Honestly trust in Jesus Christ.

No study will show you this ONLY experience.

 

[Tradefox]

Quote from vhehn:

as a baptist for over 50 years i have heard your version of the truth many times.

I am a man and IF I was able to discern the TRUTH I would not be here in ET having this convesation with you.

I would be doing my best to share it with the world and end as much suffering as I could.

I am only seeking it and TRUSTING the words of God the best I can.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from Tradefox:

Another PLAY on words .... lol

I did NOT say Christians can do anything better or worse then non Christians.

I said they are more PEACEFUL in times of stress if they Truthfully and Honestly trust in Jesus Christ.

No study will show you this ONLY experience.

do you have any evidence or are you going by what you have been told?

here is evidence against what you claim:

http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/healthier.html

 

[Tradefox]

Quote from cooldude:

Damn, I am so ignorant that I need to ask:

Who made evil? Or did evil made itself?

Have you ever read the Old Testament ?

Evil was a CHOICE given to man (Adam and Eve) and is still a CHOICE today.

 

[Tradefox]

Quote from vhehn:

do you have any evidence or are you going by what you have been told?

LOL

I have never been TOLD anything ... all the evidence I need is in my expeirences and heart.

Do I need evidence that it's Cold outside to know it's true?