traders who are deeply religious
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Religion is something from a book. I have read a lot of books and gained nothing, other books have value in them. If i can not touch, smell, feel or have factual examples of something i discard it, like a ghost for example. Same for religion, one thing that turns me off about religion is the serious number of believers who are hypocrites, that proves to me that the use of religion is nothing but a front. Same goes for HELL, never been there, never met anyone that has been there either. But i also do not meet any people that claim "HELL" is the best way to go.
But the religious people always have "THEIR" idea of what is best for me." Who are they to tell me what to like and dislike? What if i was a porn star in the past? would most be ashamed to know that, or would they be secretly jealous? ....
But the religious people always have "THEIR" idea of what is best for me." Who are they to tell me what to like and dislike? What if i was a porn star in the past? would most be ashamed to know that, or would they be secretly jealous? ....
It may be true but please do not disregard the possibility that the attitude of the former group may be the cause of the discontent of the latter.
Kind of like the people who never get headaches but give plenty to others.You could ask the same about any profession or undertaking. Do religious athletes handle pressure better than others? Does a religious surgeon/attorney/mountain-climber/CEO handle pressure better?
But the question is meaningless. People who find strength in "faith" are actually finding strength in themselves. Since there is no "being" out there to actually give them strength, it must come from within them, whether they know it or not. No different with the "unfaithful".
And since one of the most important characteristics of a good trader is to be able to see the reality of what is in front of them, rather than what they wish to see, then I'd say the non-religious trader, who has the courage to face the truth that God doesn't exist, has a headstart in the reality dept.
Harold
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... Same goes for HELL, never been there, never met anyone that has been there either. ....
That's kind of dumb. If you ever put a foot into hell, you'll never come out anymore. It's kind of like a black hole. Don't you believe in black holes either? Nobody ever managed to climb back out of a black hole either.
Watch out though. It's much easier to end up in hell than to fall into a black hole.
nononsense
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Let me answer the easy one first;
and the more difficult ones last.
MtZianos;
Partial disclosure =I am into discretion/redemption more than deep religion.
a] Lets discuss voting/victory for Bush in another forum.
z]How could a discretion/redemption trader buy derivatives or stock in the oil/gas sector. which may drive the the price up on buying , or down by selling.
Z again] Its sort of like shooting gamebirds @55 or more miles per hour;
practice practice,practice
pay attention to the wind/trend,
give away a certain %%. Its not easy.
Ps
MtZionas , you must not have had a banker Dad like mine;
he lived these last 3 lines with me & bro.
The lazy man roasteth not that which he took in hunting;
but the industrious man reaps a rich harvest.
Solomon,trader king & proverbs.
Proverbs is located in the table of contents; hope this helps like Bright trading says.
To ALL:
The Bible has many many comments in it that use business terms that everyday folks can understand. Jesus used stories about the farmer who went out and sowed his wheat fields and the shepherds killing his fatted lamb for food to feed others. Jesus also told stories about the man who built a vineyard and grew grapes and made wine to sell... etc etc. There are stories about business operations where "interest" had to be paid..
The bottom line is that God and his son Jesus understood the world of business and approved honest men working to make their living operating a business. Trading sheep or wool and selling wheat was all part to business back then. I recall the only time Jesus got angry at business people is when they turned his Temple into a "den of thieves." He overturned their tables and run them out of his Temple. But he also chose business people to be some of his 12 disciples. Peter the fisherman and Mark the doctor and even a TAX collector.. Tax collectors were considered lowest class of all workers... If your following the 12 commandments in your work, you should be OK. Jesus said that whatever you do unto others, it is if you do it for him.
Any of you can read the complete Bible to get a better understanding for yourself... THere are many Bibles just setting around. Help yourself. Read it all. I've read every page and some pages manytimes.. It is well worth your time.. Then you don't have to have others read their views to you..
Merry CHRIST-mas everyone........ agpilot
The Bible has many many comments in it that use business terms that everyday folks can understand. Jesus used stories about the farmer who went out and sowed his wheat fields and the shepherds killing his fatted lamb for food to feed others. Jesus also told stories about the man who built a vineyard and grew grapes and made wine to sell... etc etc. There are stories about business operations where "interest" had to be paid..
The bottom line is that God and his son Jesus understood the world of business and approved honest men working to make their living operating a business. Trading sheep or wool and selling wheat was all part to business back then. I recall the only time Jesus got angry at business people is when they turned his Temple into a "den of thieves." He overturned their tables and run them out of his Temple. But he also chose business people to be some of his 12 disciples. Peter the fisherman and Mark the doctor and even a TAX collector.. Tax collectors were considered lowest class of all workers... If your following the 12 commandments in your work, you should be OK. Jesus said that whatever you do unto others, it is if you do it for him.
Any of you can read the complete Bible to get a better understanding for yourself... THere are many Bibles just setting around. Help yourself. Read it all. I've read every page and some pages manytimes.. It is well worth your time.. Then you don't have to have others read their views to you..
Merry CHRIST-mas everyone........ agpilot
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You are plainly wrong. SPECULATING is a work of charity and compassion. In fact you are taking over the risk of a position that another person doesn't want to assume. Very laudable to take over such a risky burden.Quote from cooldude:
Okay, Okay, Okay...
Now, show me where did Jesus tell or teach them to SPECULATE for financial gains using financial instruments.
Show me where in the Book it tells people to USE MONEY TO GENERATE MORE MONEY.
Show me where!
Societies without free markets only breed beggars supervised by omnipotent fat cats. Jesus really hated that last kind.
nononsense