traders who are deeply religious
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lol. boy do you fit.
true-believer syndrome
http://www.skepdic.com/truebeliever.html
The need to believe in phony wonders sometimes exceeds not only logic but, seemingly, even sanity.
--The Rev. Canon William V. Rauscher
The true-believer syndrome merits study by science. What is it that compels a person, past all reason, to believe the unbelievable. How can an otherwise sane individual become so enamored of a fantasy, an imposture, that even after it's exposed in the bright light of day he still clings to it--indeed, clings to it all the harder?
--M. Lamar Keene
True-believer syndrome is an expression coined by M. Lamar Keene to describe an apparent cognitive disorder characterized by believing in the reality of paranormal or supernatural events after one has been presented overwhelming evidence that the event was fraudulently staged. Keene is a reformed phony psychic who exposed religious racketeering--to little effect, apparently. Phony faith healers, psychics, channelers, televangelist miracle workers, etc., are as abundant as ever.
Yeh...but only jesus actually brought somene back from the dead...
As traders....most of you certainly aren't very good risk managers!
Let's say that those who believe in him are a bunch of quacks and completely wrong...what is the worst that came of it. They spent a few hours a week worshiping, they were better people(not always, but most of the time), and they spent some money to help others. They are out a little time and a little money. (a very inexpensive bit of insurance, if you ask me)
Let's say you non believers are wrong, what will it cost you. Well, you saved some time, you lived a cynical life, saved a few bucks, BUT you are destined to spend eternity in hell. Are you willing to save a few bucks and a few hours and take the risk that you'll spend eternity in hell.
You do the math!
Come on folks, this arguing is pointless. It boils down to this.
No one can absolutely PROVE that God and Christ exists.
And no one can absolutely PROVE that God and Christ does not exist.
I for one, think there are many spiritual benefits to the latter view. But I can't PROVE to anyone it's true, nor can anyone PROVE to me that it's not true. Thus I am a man of faith.
No one can absolutely PROVE that God and Christ exists.
And no one can absolutely PROVE that God and Christ does not exist.
I for one, think there are many spiritual benefits to the latter view. But I can't PROVE to anyone it's true, nor can anyone PROVE to me that it's not true. Thus I am a man of faith.
I'm glad you THINK you know me so well and I have engaged in this conversation, too long already!
vhen, you are on a mission to resist God and that's between you and him if you don't believe in him then that's your CHOICE, nobody will force you.
My role as a Christian is to mere give my testimony and help those that may ask for my help willingly.
The original poster asked a simple question and I will give a simple answer.
YES, Faith can help you trade!
Today was another day that my faith helped me trade. I was down $500 by 12:00 and I was overtrading a little, after some lunch and some introspection(prayer) I took 2 more trades and ended the day down $25.00
That's a real as you can get.
God Bless and happy trading.
vhen, you are on a mission to resist God and that's between you and him if you don't believe in him then that's your CHOICE, nobody will force you.
My role as a Christian is to mere give my testimony and help those that may ask for my help willingly.
The original poster asked a simple question and I will give a simple answer.
YES, Faith can help you trade!
Today was another day that my faith helped me trade. I was down $500 by 12:00 and I was overtrading a little, after some lunch and some introspection(prayer) I took 2 more trades and ended the day down $25.00
That's a real as you can get.
God Bless and happy trading.
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Yeh...but only jesus actually brought somene back from the dead...
As traders....most of you certainly aren't very good risk managers!
Let's say that those who believe in him are a bunch of quacks and completely wrong...what is the worst that came of it. They spent a few hours a week worshiping, they were better people(not always, but most of the time), and they spent some money to help others. They are out a little time and a little money. (a very inexpensive bit of insurance, if you ask me)
Let's say you non believers are wrong, what will it cost you. Well, you saved some time, you lived a cynical life, saved a few bucks, BUT you are destined to spend eternity in hell. Are you willing to save a few bucks and a few hours and take the risk that you'll spend eternity in hell.
You do the math!
your whole theory revolves around your deeply ingrained indoctrination fear ,probably from childhood that just maybe there is a hell. what you are refering to is called pascals wager:
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/pascal.html
The Rejection of Pascal's Wager
In the seventeenth century the French mathematician and theologian, Blaise Pascal (1623- 1663) put forward a wager in his Pensees (Thoughts):
If there is a God, He is infinitely incomprehensible, since, having, neither parts nor limits, He has no affinity to us. We are then incapable of knowing either what He is or if He is ... you must wager. It is not optional. You are embarked. Which will you choose then? Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager then without hesitation that he is.[1]
Pascal's wager sounds deceptively simple. Many a religious person finds such a call attractive: one only needs to believe without considering the evidence and one would immediately be in a better position than that of the non-believer. After all, they say, if I believe and then it turns out to be true I get to enjoy heavenly bliss; but if my belief turns out to be false, and there is no God, then when I die, I lose nothing. An atheist, the religious person may continue, if he turns out to be wrong will suffer an eternity of torment. If the atheist turns out to be right then it is only equal to the believer's "worst case." Obviously then, the believer will say, you must wager on the side of belief.
But Pascal's argument is seriously flawed. The religious environment that Pascal lived in was simple. Belief and disbelief only boiled down to two choices: Roman Catholicism and atheism. With a finite choice, his argument would be sound. But on Pascal's own premise that God is infinitely incomprehensible, then in theory, there would be an infinite number of possible theologies about God, all of which are equally probable.
First, let us look at the more obvious possibilities we know of today - possibilities that were either unknown to, or ignored by, Pascal. In the Calvinistic theological doctrine of predestination, it makes no difference what one chooses to believe since, in the final analysis, who actually gets rewarded is an arbitrary choice of God. Furthermore we know of many more gods of many different religions, all of which have different schemes of rewards and punishments. Given that there are more than 2,500 gods known to man [2], and given Pascal's own assumptions that one cannot comprehend God (or gods), then it follows that, even the best case scenario (i.e. that God exists and that one of the known Gods and theologies happen to be the correct one) the chances of making a successful choice is less than one in 2,500.
Second, Pascal's negative theology does not exclude the possibility that the true God and true theology is not one that is currently known to the world. For instance it is possible to think of a God who rewards, say, only those who purposely step on sidewalk cracks. This sounds absurd, but given the premise that we cannot understand God, this possible theology cannot be dismissed. In such a case, the choice of what God to believe would be irrelevant as one would be rewarded on a premise totally distinct from what one actually believes. Furthermore as many atheist philosophers have pointed out, it is also possible to conceive of a deity who rewards intellectual honesty, a God who rewards atheists with eternal bliss simply because they dared to follow where the evidence leads - that given the available evidence, no God exists! Finally we should also note that given Pascal's premise, it is possible to conceive of a God who is evil and who punishes the good and rewards the evil. [3]
Thus Pascal's call for us not to consider the evidence but to simply believe on prudential grounds fails. As the atheist philosopher, J.L. Mackie wrote:
Once the full range of such possibilities is taken into account, Pascal's argument from comparative expectations falls to the ground. The cultivation of non-rational belief is not even practically reasonable. [4]
today while you were trading 25000 children died from starvation. 25000 children die of starvation every day in the world. isnt it amazing that god had the time to bail you out of a bad trade because you prayed and yet he let 25000 children die many of whom were praying for any kind of help.
Quote from mschey:
Yeh...but only jesus actually brought somene back from the dead...
As traders....most of you certainly aren't very good risk managers!
Let's say that those who believe in him ..what is the worst that came of it. They spent a few hours a week worshiping, they were better people(not always, but most of the time), and they spent some money to help others. They are out a little time and a little money. (a very inexpensive bit of insurance, if you ask me)
Let's say you non believers are wrong, what will it cost you. Well, you saved some time, you lived a cynical life, saved a few bucks, BUT you are destined to spend eternity in hell. Are you willing to save a few bucks and a few hours and take the risk that you'll spend eternity in hell.
You do the math ./quote
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Sounds like a good understanding of risk/ reward
You do the math !
Besides that, orthodox Jews/Christians usually have a a much better grasp of healing/ health than non believers..Thank God.
Peace.