Trader Myers-Briggs Personality Type

What is your MBTI type?

  • SJ

    Votes: 20 6.1%

  • SP

    Votes: 10 3.0%

  • NF

    Votes: 40 12.1%

  • NT

    Votes: 222 67.3%

  • Don't know what those letters mean!

    Votes: 38 11.5%
  • Total voters
    330
Quote from malaka56:


If you want to have an accurate assessment of your type, and you have never had outside input on your MBTI before, I suggest going through a test with someone who knows you well, to avoid bias, as we are all biased when judging our own actions and thoughts. Also, you can read behavior profiles for each of the 16 types to see if it matches how you find yourself living day-in and day-out.
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That is a great point. I will try that.
 
ESFP moderately expressed extravert

slightly expressed sensing personality

moderately expressed feeling personality

moderately expressed perceiving personality
 
Quote from o10maximus:

Any links for general population results? [/B]
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There are percentages for each of the 4 different temperaments in the excellent Van Tharp article mentioned above. NTs seem to be very rare, only 2%. Can the figure really be so low? I remember reading elsewhere, it would be much higher, like 5-8%.

Here is the NT chapter:


The Promethean Temperament: The Promethean Temperament comes into being when the qualities of intuition (N) and thinking (T) are dominant. The NT temperament (INTP, ENTP, INTJ, ENTJ) is only found on average in about 2% of the population. As a result, NT people must grow up in an environment full of people who are usually quite different from them. For example, about one family in 16 would have both parents as Ns and only one in a thousand would have both parents as NTs.

The NT personality is looking for power over nature: to be able to predict, control and explain realities. Thus, the NT trader would be one who wants to predict, control and explain the markets, much of which is the antithesis of good trading. However, since his ultimate goal is to be a good/great trader, the issue is simply how to get there. He has a strong drive to continually improve (as opposed to the SPs drive to simply act). As a result, I would generally expect this group to produce more good traders than any other. Our data suggests this to be the case! First, we have a lot of data on the NT personality types. Although they only constitute about 2% of the population, NTs constitute 45.2% of our sample population—a truly amazing statistic. Among our NT traders, about 10% show outstanding trading records—a higher percentage than any of the other temperaments.

The NT is very self-critical. He badgers himself about his own errors. He taxes himself with the resolve to improve. If his pushing is used as a learning process, then he is bound to improve. However, the NT can easily get caught up in the perfectionist trap, which can prevent him from getting anywhere. For example, if the NT's self-criticism is tied into his/her self esteem, then he can become frozen into inaction or into repeating the same task because he is not satisfied with the results. However, I have found that NTs show tremendous improvement when they go through my private consultation program.

The NT is likely to know that recreation is important to his health and overall well-being. However, his play has little spontaneity or fun. Instead, NT play is an exercise in conquest and being the best. He does not allow himself to make any mistakes, logical errors, and yet, paradoxically, requires that he have fun because that's what people are supposed to do when they're playing.

The trader who is an NT will live his work. If markets stay open 24 hours, he is likely to try to follow the market for 24-hours just because the market exists and missing something might be making a mistake. He wants to be the best possible trader, so he will do whatever he can to be successful. He is extremely vulnerable to the "all work, no play" syndrome and this kind of attitude can lead to a very out-of -balance lifestyle.

The NT wants to be the scientific trader. They are drawn to occupations that have a logical understanding, in which they can master some new concept about trading or design some great new trading system. He has an inquiring attitude and deals with others in a straightforward, albeit cold, approach.

The NT generally focuses on the future, trying to figure out what might happen next. And once he masters a challenge, he is very likely to move on to another one. Why? Because his goal is competency in every field. Thus, his goal might be to achieve greatness in trading, but as soon as he receives it or thinks he has it, he is likely to move on to something else.
 
INTJ, 78 12 62 56

Professional gambler for 5 years trying to transition to trading for a living.

My biggest struggle has been obsessing with perfection, trying to find the perfect way to predict each market turn. Funny stuff!
 
Exactly
Ninety-one
Trillion
Jiggawatts
:D

Not too suprising. I used to be in the Corps, and loved to devise new ways for my little death babies to deliver Norris-like outcomes. What fun that was, now the most action I get is watching the Dallas evening news...scary stuff.
 
Quote from moo:

There are percentages for each of the 4 different temperaments in the excellent Van Tharp article mentioned above. NTs seem to be very rare, only 2%. Can the figure really be so low? I remember reading elsewhere, it would be much higher, like 5-8%.

Here is the NT chapter:


The Promethean Temperament: The Promethean Temperament comes into being when the qualities of intuition (N) and thinking (T) are dominant. The NT temperament (INTP, ENTP, INTJ, ENTJ) is only found on average in about 2% of the population. As a result, NT people must grow up in an environment full of people who are usually quite different from them. For example, about one family in 16 would have both parents as Ns and only one in a thousand would have both parents as NTs.

The NT personality is looking for power over nature: to be able to predict, control and explain realities. Thus, the NT trader would be one who wants to predict, control and explain the markets, much of which is the antithesis of good trading. However, since his ultimate goal is to be a good/great trader, the issue is simply how to get there. He has a strong drive to continually improve (as opposed to the SPs drive to simply act). As a result, I would generally expect this group to produce more good traders than any other. Our data suggests this to be the case! First, we have a lot of data on the NT personality types. Although they only constitute about 2% of the population, NTs constitute 45.2% of our sample population—a truly amazing statistic. Among our NT traders, about 10% show outstanding trading records—a higher percentage than any of the other temperaments.

The NT is very self-critical. He badgers himself about his own errors. He taxes himself with the resolve to improve. If his pushing is used as a learning process, then he is bound to improve. However, the NT can easily get caught up in the perfectionist trap, which can prevent him from getting anywhere. For example, if the NT's self-criticism is tied into his/her self esteem, then he can become frozen into inaction or into repeating the same task because he is not satisfied with the results. However, I have found that NTs show tremendous improvement when they go through my private consultation program.

The NT is likely to know that recreation is important to his health and overall well-being. However, his play has little spontaneity or fun. Instead, NT play is an exercise in conquest and being the best. He does not allow himself to make any mistakes, logical errors, and yet, paradoxically, requires that he have fun because that's what people are supposed to do when they're playing.

The trader who is an NT will live his work. If markets stay open 24 hours, he is likely to try to follow the market for 24-hours just because the market exists and missing something might be making a mistake. He wants to be the best possible trader, so he will do whatever he can to be successful. He is extremely vulnerable to the "all work, no play" syndrome and this kind of attitude can lead to a very out-of -balance lifestyle.

The NT wants to be the scientific trader. They are drawn to occupations that have a logical understanding, in which they can master some new concept about trading or design some great new trading system. He has an inquiring attitude and deals with others in a straightforward, albeit cold, approach.

The NT generally focuses on the future, trying to figure out what might happen next. And once he masters a challenge, he is very likely to move on to another one. Why? Because his goal is competency in every field. Thus, his goal might be to achieve greatness in trading, but as soon as he receives it or thinks he has it, he is likely to move on to something else.
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I feel so... so defined and classified.... like a case study or something.

I'm an INTP and everything you wrote is so spot on. It is somewhat sad to know that no one is very unique in this world, even though we'd all like to think we are.

What exactly is this "private consultation program" you speak of?

Mike
 
Quote from Maverick74:

I'm not sure that INTJ's would make very good traders. I think one of the conflicts INTJ's would have with the markets is you can't impose structure and order on to it. This is why engineers in general (INTJ types) have such a hard time with trading. You can't develop the perfect system or perfect indicator to trade. The market is much more oganic and free flowing and dynamic and constantly changing and more often then not, the market moves contrary to logic. I would think INTJ's struggle with this daily and you see a lot of that on ET with the countless threads of asking why the market is moving higher in the wake of all the bad economic data, rising oil prices, falling dollar, etc. It's interesting to see so many INTJ's on here as I would suspect most of ET to fall into that category by the thread topics you see on a daily basis.
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INTJ/engineer and can attest to that:D

Hardest problem to learn was throw out the logic/order part (after many painful WTFs). Very good insight.
 
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