I am not against you doing it but make sure if you are going to state something that we know the facts that you are being transparent otherwide you try and get every tom dick and harry trading spreads and losing their asses just like in regualr trading. if you cannot handle making money in one yuou arent going to be able to do it in TWO with double the fees double the slippage and sometimes trading an outright future because in real trading lots of times you dont get filled and in that case go ahead and just trade outrights
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what do you show as proof you are actually trading it live and doing very well and what is very well by the way?
Wow, salty much? Take a chill pill dude.
I am not making outrageous claims, just sharing my experience.
I regret posting here ...
Edit: again, i am not trading demo. If you don't believe that i couldn't care less. I am not making any claims so i have nothing to prove.
LOL you have no idea what you are doing. 1 point in es is 50 bucks and 1 point in nq is 20 bucks. yeah 70 bucks wouldnt hurt plus 98 in fees every time you get in on the wrong side and even if you mis spoke and you meant tick it averages around 2 or 3 ticksI am not trading demo and i am not interested in starting a journal.
By the way, why would algos affect me? I am not scalping the ES or NQ spread if that is what you are referring to. I trade the spread between ES and NQ, my trades last hours so even a 1 point slippage on each leg wouldn't hurt me ...
so in NQ that is 10 in and 10 out and ed is 12.5 plus 12.5 is 25 so you are talking at a minimum if you are lucky 45 dollars per unit plus 8 fees so everytime you start you are negative 53 dollars and you really think all the quants arent at work beating you day in and day out and no one thinks you are scalping the bid ask spread.. do you really think you are so high and mighty cuz you put on a 1x1 LMFAO
Listen up people I will tell you about spreaders they cannot make a living trading outright so day in and day out they might eek out a small living but they will ALL the time wish they were just trading an outright futures contract successfully because it can make 2 3 4 5 x as much with way less hassle and stress if you are good at it. the same bad habits that follow you in outright will follow you in spreading except you have ALL the ALGOS and HFT gunning for your same positions and you will always pay the worst price and then when you think you got it and you do what they tell you to do which is just keep adding like you said yourself.. i was addin and adding and adding .. well so did long term capital management.. duh.. enjoy the small profits and let us know when it blows up. If you have no interest in keeping a journal then why are you writing in others!!!
By the way I DO NOT TRADE SPREADS. i have made and lost lot so fmoney with spreads and time and time again that is what happens. you think you are goood you add and add and add then BOOM the hft and big traders nail you.
I like the commentary but dont say something works and then act too high and mighty to actually start a small accoutn and post up your live returns.
what is your execution platform? click and then click? bahahha aha
hey man last i checked this said tradekingoot journal? POST AT YOUR OWN RISKWow, salty much? Take a chill pill dude.
I am not making outrageous claims, just sharing my experience.
I regret posting here ...
Edit: again, i am not trading demo. If you don't believe that i couldn't care less. I am not making any claims so i have nothing to prove.
just as i warn people about spreads you come in here and act like you are gonna fight with me and say quite the contrary in my van by the river i have a screen and i spread the nq vs the es and i am faster and smarter and better than those 50 millions spent a year on tech with microwave towers.
Hey DEVBRO.. relax too man just having a little fun! good post.
I was winning until devbro just cost me my gains!! psyche i made the choice to type on here rather than trade. that did not happen but if it did then i twould have been all my fault. in trading it is always all your fault. not the mkt not the news NOT the SPREADS it is YOU makes it very simple to place blame only on yourself right!!
easy morning tough afternoon ... i gave some back but still green today
easy morning tough afternoon ... i gave some back but still green today
hey man last i checked this said tradekingoot journal? POST AT YOUR OWN RISK
just as i warn people about spreads you come in here and act like you are gonna fight with me and say quite the contrary in my van by the river i have a screen and i spread the nq vs the es and i am faster and smarter and better than those 50 millions spent a year on tech with microwave towers.
Hey DEVBRO.. relax too man just having a little fun! good post.
Fight with you? I said i respectfully disagree and never said you were wrong?
If you can't handle people having a different opinion from yours don't post on a public forum ...
don't regret posting here DEVBRU.. its okay that was fun no hard feelings okayWow, salty much? Take a chill pill dude.
I am not making outrageous claims, just sharing my experience.
I regret posting here ...
Edit: again, i am not trading demo. If you don't believe that i couldn't care less. I am not making any claims so i have nothing to prove.
LOL you have no idea what you are doing. 1 point in es is 50 bucks and 1 point in nq is 20 bucks. yeah 70 bucks wouldnt hurt plus 98 in fees every time you get in on the wrong side and even if you mis spoke and you meant tick it averages around 2 or 3 ticks
so in NQ that is 10 in and 10 out and ed is 12.5 plus 12.5 is 25 so you are talking at a minimum if you are lucky 45 dollars per unit plus 8 fees so everytime you start you are negative 53 dollars and you really think all the quants arent at work beating you day in and day out and no one thinks you are scalping the bid ask spread.. do you really think you are so high and mighty cuz you put on a 1x1 LMFAO
Listen up people I will tell you about spreaders they cannot make a living trading outright so day in and day out they might eek out a small living but they will ALL the time wish they were just trading an outright futures contract successfully because it can make 2 3 4 5 x as much with way less hassle and stress if you are good at it. the same bad habits that follow you in outright will follow you in spreading except you have ALL the ALGOS and HFT gunning for your same positions and you will always pay the worst price and then when you think you got it and you do what they tell you to do which is just keep adding like you said yourself.. i was addin and adding and adding .. well so did long term capital management.. duh.. enjoy the small profits and let us know when it blows up. If you have no interest in keeping a journal then why are you writing in others!!!
By the way I DO NOT TRADE SPREADS. i have made and lost lot so fmoney with spreads and time and time again that is what happens. you think you are goood you add and add and add then BOOM the hft and big traders nail you.
I like the commentary but dont say something works and then act too high and mighty to actually start a small accoutn and post up your live returns.
what is your execution platform? click and then click? bahahha aha
And this post proves that you have no idea what you are talking about regarding spreads.
I am out.
i think this is quasi public since it is my journal but yeah that is a good point like i said this is a work in progress and i am learning as i go with thsi journal thingFight with you? I said i respectfully disagree and never said you were wrong?
If you can't handle people having a different opinion from yours don't post on a public forum ...
once again why don't you back up your claim!! look at it from my perspective.. you came int o my journal and said you know all about spreads then you ended with wellAnd this post proves that you have no idea what you are talking about regarding spreads.
I am out.
based on your last post where you show the slippage in spreads it means you know nothing abouit spreads.. ok well my journal floor is yours "cupcake" why don't you show me an example so we can learn how and why you think i dont know anything about spreads based on what i wrote about slippage and sometimes getting LEGGED!? i wont attack just for illustrative purposes show us what you know and you can start by
letting us know what execution plat form you are using for your spread
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