Tower Hill Trading

I know that this topic has been posted before, but it seems like these prop firms can change quite a lot in a short time. I'm interested in speaking to anyone that has experience trading with THT and especially those that have gone through the training program recently.

There are also a few things in their contract that make me nervous. For instance

"A percentage of all quarterly payouts due to Trader shall be retained by THT as unvested amounts"

"Trader acknowledges that Trader has no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, regardless

of eligible vest date, until and unless any such unvested amounts actually vest. If this Agreement is

terminated or Trader otherwise ceases trading for THT’s proprietary account and behalf, Trader shall

have no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, and any such unvested amounts shall

remain the sole property of THT."

"This Agreement shall terminate upon the first to occur of the following events: (i) receipt by

Trader of written notice of termination from THT; or (ii) passage of three and one half years from the date that

THT assigns a sub-account for Trader to commence trading on THT’s behalf."

"Trader agrees to pay to THT 20% of gross profits made by Trader

in electronic active trading of equities, whether profits are made at THT or of Trader’s own accord, or under

employment or engagement of any third party, for a period of 41 months starting from the end of first month

of the training period."

This is a 3 1/2 year contract. No deposit is required. I get payed 80% total. 55% of my profits are payable 60 days after the end of the month. The other 25% is withheld from me for 18 months. Any of these payments can be withheld indefinitely if it is in THT's interest. If THT decides to fire me or if I quit, then I'm not able to trade for anyone for one year after the termination date. For 41 months after my training period, 20% of all profits made will go to THT even if I'm with a different prop firm or trading on my own.

I understand that they need to make contracts that will allow them to make money, but is this contract standard in the industry nowadays?
Thanks in advance.
 
I know that this topic has been posted before, but it seems like these prop firms can change quite a lot in a short time. I'm interested in speaking to anyone that has experience trading with THT and especially those that have gone through the training program recently.

There are also a few things in their contract that make me nervous. For instance

"A percentage of all quarterly payouts due to Trader shall be retained by THT as unvested amounts"

"Trader acknowledges that Trader has no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, regardless

of eligible vest date, until and unless any such unvested amounts actually vest. If this Agreement is

terminated or Trader otherwise ceases trading for THT’s proprietary account and behalf, Trader shall

have no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, and any such unvested amounts shall

remain the sole property of THT."

"This Agreement shall terminate upon the first to occur of the following events: (i) receipt by

Trader of written notice of termination from THT; or (ii) passage of three and one half years from the date that

THT assigns a sub-account for Trader to commence trading on THT’s behalf."

"Trader agrees to pay to THT 20% of gross profits made by Trader

in electronic active trading of equities, whether profits are made at THT or of Trader’s own accord, or under

employment or engagement of any third party, for a period of 41 months starting from the end of first month

of the training period."

This is a 3 1/2 year contract. No deposit is required. I get payed 80% total. 55% of my profits are payable 60 days after the end of the month. The other 25% is withheld from me for 18 months. Any of these payments can be withheld indefinitely if it is in THT's interest. If THT decides to fire me or if I quit, then I'm not able to trade for anyone for one year after the termination date. For 41 months after my training period, 20% of all profits made will go to THT even if I'm with a different prop firm or trading on my own.

I understand that they need to make contracts that will allow them to make money, but is this contract standard in the industry nowadays?
Thanks in advance.

Sounds like a good deal (compared to working at the car wash).
 
I am fully interested in this thread because I will start working (remotely) with them soon.

In my opinion (or maybe what I want to think :p) most of them are "just in case clauses", I mean, they will not apply them but in really uncommon cases such a trader that left the company and now is making millions out there and they want "their piece of the cake". I don't think that they will sue you if you are making $30k a year? I don't know...

Be careful, though. I recently read a comment on glassdor about this company saying that once he left the company they didn't give him back the unvested money.

Regards
 
From what I heave heard Tower Hill is very aggressive with the non-compete that you sign. If you ever plan on trading anywhere else beware. And since they start you trading only 10 shares you will never make any money and leave. Then they will attempt to bar you from trading anywhere else. Use the search function....you will find others opinions.
 
This is a 3 1/2 year contract. No deposit is required. I get payed 80% total. 55% of my profits are payable 60 days after the end of the month. The other 25% is withheld from me for 18 months. Any of these payments can be withheld indefinitely if it is in THT's interest. If THT decides to fire me or if I quit, then I'm not able to trade for anyone for one year after the termination date. For 41 months after my training period, 20% of all profits made will go to THT even if I'm with a different prop firm or trading on my own.

I understand that they need to make contracts that will allow them to make money, but is this contract standard in the industry nowadays?
Thanks in advance.

I always enjoy reading what these "prop" places like to put in their agreements, considering they don't see you as a human being. Of course, none of them are enforceable. We live in the United States of America.
 
I always enjoy reading what these "prop" places like to put in their agreements, considering they don't see you as a human being. Of course, none of them are enforceable. We live in the United States of America.

Most of them are pretty standard. Only Tower Hill makes you sign your life away. And maybe they are not enforceable....but you will need to spend thousands of dollars on an attorney to prove it. After all, you did sign a contract.
 
I know that this topic has been posted before, but it seems like these prop firms can change quite a lot in a short time. I'm interested in speaking to anyone that has experience trading with THT and especially those that have gone through the training program recently.

There are also a few things in their contract that make me nervous. For instance

"A percentage of all quarterly payouts due to Trader shall be retained by THT as unvested amounts"

"Trader acknowledges that Trader has no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, regardless

of eligible vest date, until and unless any such unvested amounts actually vest. If this Agreement is

terminated or Trader otherwise ceases trading for THT’s proprietary account and behalf, Trader shall

have no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, and any such unvested amounts shall

remain the sole property of THT."

"This Agreement shall terminate upon the first to occur of the following events: (i) receipt by

Trader of written notice of termination from THT; or (ii) passage of three and one half years from the date that

THT assigns a sub-account for Trader to commence trading on THT’s behalf."

"Trader agrees to pay to THT 20% of gross profits made by Trader

in electronic active trading of equities, whether profits are made at THT or of Trader’s own accord, or under

employment or engagement of any third party, for a period of 41 months starting from the end of first month

of the training period."

This is a 3 1/2 year contract. No deposit is required. I get payed 80% total. 55% of my profits are payable 60 days after the end of the month. The other 25% is withheld from me for 18 months. Any of these payments can be withheld indefinitely if it is in THT's interest. If THT decides to fire me or if I quit, then I'm not able to trade for anyone for one year after the termination date. For 41 months after my training period, 20% of all profits made will go to THT even if I'm with a different prop firm or trading on my own.

I understand that they need to make contracts that will allow them to make money, but is this contract standard in the industry nowadays?
Thanks in advance.



Why would you even consider such a contract?
 
Lol. Non compete clause. Are you kidding me?

I know that this topic has been posted before, but it seems like these prop firms can change quite a lot in a short time. I'm interested in speaking to anyone that has experience trading with THT and especially those that have gone through the training program recently.

There are also a few things in their contract that make me nervous. For instance

"A percentage of all quarterly payouts due to Trader shall be retained by THT as unvested amounts"

"Trader acknowledges that Trader has no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, regardless

of eligible vest date, until and unless any such unvested amounts actually vest. If this Agreement is

terminated or Trader otherwise ceases trading for THT’s proprietary account and behalf, Trader shall

have no right, claim or interest in any unvested amounts, and any such unvested amounts shall

remain the sole property of THT."

"This Agreement shall terminate upon the first to occur of the following events: (i) receipt by

Trader of written notice of termination from THT; or (ii) passage of three and one half years from the date that

THT assigns a sub-account for Trader to commence trading on THT’s behalf."

"Trader agrees to pay to THT 20% of gross profits made by Trader

in electronic active trading of equities, whether profits are made at THT or of Trader’s own accord, or under

employment or engagement of any third party, for a period of 41 months starting from the end of first month

of the training period."

This is a 3 1/2 year contract. No deposit is required. I get payed 80% total. 55% of my profits are payable 60 days after the end of the month. The other 25% is withheld from me for 18 months. Any of these payments can be withheld indefinitely if it is in THT's interest. If THT decides to fire me or if I quit, then I'm not able to trade for anyone for one year after the termination date. For 41 months after my training period, 20% of all profits made will go to THT even if I'm with a different prop firm or trading on my own.

I understand that they need to make contracts that will allow them to make money, but is this contract standard in the industry nowadays?
Thanks in advance.
 
Most of them are pretty standard. Only Tower Hill makes you sign your life away. And maybe they are not enforceable....but you will need to spend thousands of dollars on an attorney to prove it. After all, you did sign a contract.

you should not give out legal advice. you are obviously clueless.
 
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