Tough question, looking for truth

Originally posted by uptik2000
vinny-
some positives about ARCA are: reserve orders, stops on nasdaq, trailing stops(but that depends on your broker...my new one doesn't offer that..and I'm not happy about it)

So your new broker,i know who it is but i won't mention it,does allow reserve orders and stops on nasdaq,just not trailing stops?
 
vinny-
reserve orders yes.
everything else, no...but they said they will add it.

my biggest problem is not having stops for nasdaq...i like to trade nas...but not without being able to place stops...the main reason is for ISP protection...like today, my ISP was out for 20minutes thankfully i had no positions at th etime. when i was at TNT i could be long XLNX for example...place a stop a point back(trailing even better) and not have to worry if I lost my connection.
so hopefully they will add that feature soon.:D
 
I havent used arcapilago in a while, but it used to be my favorite ecn. It had the qualities of island and redibook.
 
Mr. Bright wrote:

"Sometimes I wish we could take the "other side" of our new traders trades....but of course, we don't. Of course, we don't self clear either. The old idea of a "bucket shop" always comes to mind when I hear about this."

Should I read this to mean that where a firm self clears that there is a greater likelihood that they are taking the other side of the trade?
 
actually, if a firm was operating as a "bucket shop", how would they get caught? When they screw up and go bankrupt cause their customers are doing too well ?
 
Originally posted by dc441711
It is my experience that most prop traders assume that their trades are going straight from their computers to a specialist post, market maker or ECN. I have noticed things and believe I have evidence showing that this is not true. Further, this leads me to believe if there are day trading firms who are taking orders, which they self clear through their own software, and are, in essence running a bucket shop.

Am I nuts or are there, in fact, firms that do this? And what type of software has a middle person and which doesnt. I have worked in two places, which shall be nameless, and in my current position, there can be no doubt that my market orders linger forever and there was a dispute over an order I wanted busted and instead of having an inquiry done on the exchange, which I thought was the policy, someone affiliated with the software company merely offered her opinion that nothing could be done. Yet, I researched the issue and she is wrong and the issue cost me 500 dollars.

Thanks in advance

When I traded ISI, it was their rep that called the floor and complained for me. That hardly ever results in any execution improvement -- at least it hasnt for me once in two years. But I don't complain too much (to them, anyway). Some guys called up once a day or more.

I think they're too busy too front run. They might be monitoring risk, though.
 
That sounds bad. I don't know if you are talking about NYSE or NAS, but on NASDAQ stocks (not necessarily the fastest moving, but not the slowest either) that I trade, both ECN and Supersoes fills are pretty much instantaneous. The one exception is when things seem to be running a little slow.
I assume this is just server or internet traffic, and doesn't happen too often. I would not settle for anything less than < 1 sec. confirms at least 80% of the time. As far as NYSE, who knows what the specialist is going to do to you! My experience is that Nas MMs can be picked off on SOES, that's always a pleasure.

As far as firms trading against your orders, I think this is the most despicable thing I can think of.. and check this out..

I have talked to managers of a well known prop firm (you would know the name) and heard them boasting about trading against their own traders! Also, I would keep my stops mental, if they are on a server, assume someone knows where they are!

I say this, not to knock anybody, but I think it's a good idea to remember that people in the firm you trade with, know what you are doing. Are they taking advantage? You gotta take their word for it. I remember back a few years ago, it was pretty much common knowledge that NITE was taking advantage of overnight customer orders and working the open. Maybe back then, things were so good for everyone that nobody thought to complain.
 
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