actually there is a nice tax break for buying SUV's right now.
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If the W administration were smart, they'd play UP the whole human rights thing. They'd say - "we have the mastermind, and we're going to interrogate him, but we're going to make sure he has a fair trial, because we ARE THE US, WE BELIEVE IN FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY, and we are going to STAND BY WHAT WE BELIEVE IN. We are going to interrogate him, and we're going to adhere to international laws regarding such interrogations, and we are still going to get a ton of information out of him and use that to save lives."
Instead, the administration has taken the first opportunity to show the world that they are NOT above Al-Queda. Instead of saying, "we are more powerful, and are better, and thus have a responsibility to stick to a higher standard when dealing with this little pondscum who thinks that his cowardly guerilla attacks against defenseless civilians can stop our great nation," they are essentially justifying the contempt that al-queda has for the US, the land that they (and the rest of the world) see as the land of hypocrisy. They are saying that we are no better than these terrorists who also think that they are above the law.
Again, I'm glad I don't have kids during the Bush administration. What terrible lessons they are teaching our children.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Now that the United State has captured Khalid Shaikh Mohammed in Pakistan, should they employ any method of gaining information that could help the war on terrorism?
Is torture to gain information that could save future live of Americans justified in this instance?

You rely too much on literal news reporting without making some obvious conclusions on your own.Quote from trader556:
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SOMEONE NEEDS to get the story straight. Either US or the Pakistanies. Nice pr tho, many complained about Bush not doing enough on terrorism and there you have it. One dead terrorsit to be interrogated. Sooooooooooooo who's story is correct?
Interrogating the dead Al-Qaida, or Are we Stupid?
Unfortunately, while the coalition is claiming success, there is a run for taking the credit. The American version of the news from likes of CNN, Foxnews, MSNBC hardly mentions the Pakistani role and makes it sound like Sheikh Khalid Muhammad was captured somewhere in Texas, not from Rawalpindi. The Pakistani version earlier claimed this to be a joint operation but now it is claimed to be 100% Pakistani operation (News Link Mar 3, 2003).
The contradictions do not stop here. Americans claim that Sheikh Khalid Muhammad is in their custody and is now being interrogated for the second day. Whereas, the Pakistanis are saying that he has not been extradited to any country. Furthermre, it is being said that Sheikh Khalid will be extradited to Kuwait.
So, who is the real man?
A more troubling problem is that it was reported by both American and Pakistani authorities back in September 2002 that Sheikh Khalid Muhammad was killed in a raid. The reason we remember him vividly was the way his death was dramatized. He was reported as writing words on a wall with his own blood as he was dying ( News Link Sept 15, 2002).
http://www.paknews.com/editorials.php?id=1&date1=2003-03-04
Let's get the friggin facts straight. BTW are the Pakis still our friends?hmmmmmm
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Quote from max401:
You rely too much on literal news reporting without making some obvious conclusions on your own.
BTW, the US group, FBI et al, is rather pissed at the Pakistanis for letting the cat out of the bag by announcing the capture too soon after it occurred, thereby warning all the SKM operatives. US wanted to wait a few days as they should have. Pakistan blew it.
heh-heh. Candle, you WARMONGER!!Quote from candletrader:
Fwiw, I have no problem with us attacking the Pakistanis... its remains more of a breeding ground for fanatic scum than Afganistan was imo... we should target real threats, and the Pakistani system of terroristic infrastructure is a real threat...

Brilliant. What an insight into your thought processes and ideology. Attack Pakistan? Oh, please produce some Cut & Paste backup for this desire.Quote from candletrader:
Fwiw, I have no problem with us attacking the Pakistanis... its remains more of a breeding ground for fanatic scum than Afganistan was imo...