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ok,waiting for your interview .what are the advantages of opening an trading account with them compared to other brokers?

when I open my own account I will go most probably with Velocity.

Anyway, it is some 6 months ahead. Gotta concentrate now at task at hand.
 
My interpretation would be libel or defamation does "hurt others" and would go against Mill's thinking. From wiki, "He argued that even if an opinion is false, the truth can be better understood by refuting the error." However, I think the opinion is something not harmful to others, say "The Sun is blue." I know he says libel is absurd, but I have a feeling, may be wrong, that libel at that time was different. Saying "i don't like this" could be libel. In fact, in certain countries you cannot say that still today. "I don't like this soup" could land you in jail.

Real Trader has no right to name names and say they cannot do this or that, unless he is extremely confident in his position.

You should really reconsider whether or not ideas, thoughts, and opinions cause harm to others. What are the implications if they do? When can you control and censor the free expression of another’s thoughts, ideas, and opinions to prevent “harm”?
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If your ideas and thoughts cause me harm, then can I can control your mind and restrict your expression, for my protection of course?
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Free speech is ultimately a property rights issue. To try to censor and control someone’s expression, ideas, and opinions is ultimately the most abusive intrusion into their personal property rights and attempt to control their mind and thoughts.
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If the owners of this forum have a problem with real trader, then they can ban him and remove his posts. End of story.
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If real trader wants to continue to express his opinions on whoever these people are, then he can create a blog about it. He will be using his property (his blog space paid for on a server), and his mind (ideas, thoughts, etc.). All of that would exclusively belong to him and he is free to do as he pleases.
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Of course we have our own property rights, the right not to sell or let real trader use our means to disseminate his ideas, and the right to our own minds (to reject or ignore him).
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Threatening a libel lawsuit for an arbitrary decision to be rendered over someone’s mind and the realm of ideas is very cowardly and very disgusting.
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FYI, real trader, don’t live in fear and don’t let some hack use fear and intimidation to keep you from expressing yourself. Your ISP company is not going to give away your personal identity and information because you called someone a bad trader. That is the first road block in a series of infinite hurdles that they would have to leap to even begin a pathetic attempt to censor you.
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People ask yourself if you want to live in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">N. Korea</st1:place>! Do you really want these types of threats for free expression?
 
ATTN: Moderators, I want you to know why you are losing another member and will have fewer traffic.
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There seems to be two types of posters on this forum. Front men and promoters for brokerage firms, educational services, vendors, etc. Who do nothing but lie and sell snake oil. The second are the embittered and negative posters who carry a huge axe to grind against any type of success.
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All and all this place is very depressing and brings you down.
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Good bye forever. :p
 
Regarding fees, the T4 platform is pricey. I currently use the platform with an FCM and pay $1 a side with a 1000 month cap on it.

Pricey ?

TST is charging 20% higher for T4 per rt than you can get if you just have a pulse at any discount retail fcm.
 
Pricey ?

TST is charging 20% higher for T4 per rt than you can get if you just have a pulse at any discount retail fcm.

TST is not charging anything for T4, it's built into their $5 RT. Once a trader is live I think all they bill them for is exchange data.
 
I am hopefully getting live funding. Cross fingers. TST kindly provided me with demo to trade exactly as I traded before to keep my trading sharp while awaiting funding. 2-3 weeks as I was told.
Market now is pretty bad. Liquidity is a fraction of what it used to be just 2 months ago. It's good I will be able to keep trading while things are moving.
Hope September contract will become more liquid soon.


Why does it take 2 to 3 weeks to set up a futures account through tst when you can open and fund a retail account in only 24-48 hours ?
 
Basically realtrader is lying until he proves otherwise about the "failed traders" part.

Lets see the statements of Michael, Eddie or John that you have in your possession as proof of those allegations realtrader?

And dont give me the whole "if they were profitable they wouldnt be selling this or education they would be hunkered down trading all day" bullshit. You know why? Cause im a profitable daytrader but I also have a career. Its icing on the cake man and my version of selling options month after month against my real career. And I suspect its that way for a lot of people. I can have my cake and eat it, why cant the Patak management team as well?

Im nobodys cheerleader I enjoy facts only. So lets see the facts realtrader. Prove yourself righteous in our eyes and the ET board.


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And spare us the 100 line diatribe...account statements or other proof of failure will suffice.




f you sold a dream, and were making money living that dream, you would market yourself with an audited track record to attract more paying dreamers.
Show me the numbers or go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.
 
TST is not charging anything for T4, it's built into their $5 RT. Once a trader is live I think all they bill them for is exchange data.




To trade using T4 per rt you are paying 20% min higher thru tst.

And with a cme membership they are probably pocketing minimum $1.75 per rt in overides.


You know damn well they would not be running this for 4+ years if it was not profitable.
 
To trade using T4 per rt you are paying 20% min higher thru tst.

And with a cme membership they are probably pocketing minimum $1.75 per rt in overides.


You know damn well they would not be running this for 4+ years if it was not profitable.

Dude, where are you getting these numbers? Where is the 20% premium coming from? TST from broker to broker is on avg a $500 a month platform. You can either pay per RT or pay the $500. Jesus Christ man their option add on alone is 1k a month!!!!!! Are you even capable of telling the truth or it against your ethos?
 
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