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Quote from toolazy:
----don't understand....
----one gets cash allocated and max loss per day and schedule....
----you have to make so much pl by....
----What is benefit to trader?
----Gets % of winnings and no share of losses ?
----my strength is swing trading....
----have enough cash to afford meaningful bets....
----am I missing something?
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1) Most of all, you have to abide by TST's risk guidelines. :cool:
2) They impose no profit objective on you. :)
3) The trader is receiving a relatively "large" payout on a relatively "small" account. :D
4) The firm absorbs losses to the downside "shutdown" limit on the account, not you, ever. :eek:
5) You WILL have to be a daytrader, with even some additional time constraints in certain markets. :(
6) If you have your own account already, you probably wouldn't feel comfortable with the guidelines. :p
 
Quote from Maverick74:I Think a lot of guys do the combine in the hopes of going live and trading for a while and getting over this fear and then opening their own funded account. I would bet 90% of the traders are trying to do that. Even if they never make a dime from the live account, they just want to get over that fear.


I chose this excerpt because it highlights a unique opportunity within the industry, for such low costs.

+1 For the whole post.
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I have traded futures for just 2 years and while I have the funding like Maverick said I dont want to risk it in futures.
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So I am giving TST a try. I failed the first combine-hit the daily loss limit. Now I am on my second combine and doing well. I think personally the combine rules are fair-no overnight holds, risk limits etc. When I am trading good none of that matters but I have had couple of days where had it not been for the DLL i probably would have lost more. I am doing the 50k combine with 3500 profit target. Worst case right now is I get refunded or I can try another one for free. The earlier combine that I failed, was entirely my fault and mistakes that I make with my trading. They have a max loss limit of 2k to make 3.5k which is fair I think. Enough room to hang yourself. Some might say its just same as a practice account but practice account you dont really have the pressure that you have with a combine account.

It may not be for everyone, but if you think you are a good trader and its a good opportunity for someone without funding or without risking any of your own money to make it in the trading world.
 
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but their model seems legitimate to me?
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Has anyone ever wondered if this is such a good business model, why others are not copying it? I know only one other similar company, and that is an obvious scam...

Hell, if I wanted to run a similar ship, I could just use TST's Combine (so I don't need to run a sim with datafeed and such) and back Combiners with less strict criterias and different hurdles to overcome... Let's say you missed the profit target by 200 bucks or you have 2 red stats? I would still back you...
 
Laissez Faire said:
Any news with this operation?

Haven't been active in the trading world or the forums for a while now.
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They seem to be very active in Chicago. Doing happy hours and more "in person" stuff then over the internet. I think that's a smart move. Web forums are really not very productive. A lot of noise and distraction here.
 
I accidentally clicked on the link instead of the little arrow which brings me to the last page. On the first 2 pages there was full of bickering about the good and bad of the program is. It seems to me that most traders lose in the beginning. So I do not understand why you would fund an account with 5 or 10 thousand, and most likely blow it up after X amount of months. Pay 190 for the 20 day 50k combine, if you are a scratch trader you get it refunded. If you are doing well, perhaps u get a chance to be funded. If you blow up...you lose 190, not 5 or 10k. If you do pass the combine, perhaps you want to consider making a 5k deposit and trading your own money at a futures broker...but this gives a chance to blow up 2 or 3 times and only lose 600$, people do not realize how fast you can be -$600. Its far better to lose 600 over the course of 2-3 months then ending up like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMwMsY0ndo
 
I did check the Combine parameters lately, as I have a system that I thought would have a chance ...

... but, really, those Combine parameters are just engineered to fail 99% of the candidates.

Take the $190 combine for example: $3500 target, $2000 max DD, say over 20 days.
Aside from making it by luck, that translates into the ability to make $35,000 per year (20 days * 10) while staying inside a $2,000 drawdown max. Sure.
 
dom993 said:
... but, really, those Combine parameters are just engineered to fail 99% of the candidates.
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If you ran a prop firm that fully funded the traders, would you be looking for anything less than the top 1%?

I believe TopStep allows you to design a custom combine.
 
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