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Here's the thing ..

Combine is really 3 Combines in a row - Combine, Live Prep and 1st 10 days of funding with third one being the hardest .. I've passed Combine 4 times, Live Prep twice and failed 10 days twice .. Obviously 10 days is by far the most difficult because you have to build enough cushion in 10 days - e.g. $1k is not enough .. I don't know why they wouldn't allow more than 10 days because the time restriction is an additional mental baggage .. I trade my own accounts, too, but Combine is a personal challenge for me just because it's so hard and I want to prove myself that I could do it .. I figure if anyone can pass 3 in a row and finish with enough cushion, he/she has a high probability of making it consistently .. the endeavor has definitely forced me to be a better trader - that's for sure ..


Time restriction is a major setup for failure. Your forced to trade when your gut doesn't scream out the setup. To get around this train your brain to follow other markets. So more setups appear. It's harder than it sounds. It takes a lot just to follow the nuances of one market. I'm up throughout the night monitoring prices and markets.
 
Here's the thing ..

Combine is really 3 Combines in a row - Combine, Live Prep and 1st 10 days of funding with third one being the hardest .. I've passed Combine 4 times, Live Prep twice and failed 10 days twice .. Obviously 10 days is by far the most difficult because you have to build enough cushion in 10 days - e.g. $1k is not enough .. I don't know why they wouldn't allow more than 10 days because the time restriction is an additional mental baggage .. I trade my own accounts, too, but Combine is a personal challenge for me just because it's so hard and I want to prove myself that I could do it .. I figure if anyone can pass 3 in a row and finish with enough cushion, he/she has a high probability of making it consistently .. the endeavor has definitely forced me to be a better trader - that's for sure ..




What if you were to trade the LTP and Funded account like the Combine? The same enthusiasm, concentration and determination among other things. Things that can affect you with real trading: the thought of you worrying about what your peers and family would think of you if you fail or start making the big bucks, wanting to make money asap, focus on other traders numbers, detailed info on every single tick once you are in the trade. What I have learned is that every single trade is a new beginning, a journey to hopefully get to your profit target. Many times I would evade from my system because "I know it all", get penalized for it and eventually sitting on the sidelines because my daily loss limit is at 95...% only to see that "hey that's my setup, that's another setup and the risk reward was a 7:1 ratio! Shit like that makes you follow your system even though you have thrown discipline out the door :).
 
Pulcini's fall and Dr. Steenbarger's opinion of him deserve its own thread, but I will address both here quickly.



1. Pulcini's fall: He was basicly a big time scalper and I don't think he had any kind of predictive strategy. Why his scalping method stop working I don't know, but it obviously did. He never had a deep understanding of the markets for sure.
As I mentioned earlier, instead of having an edge, he employed a strategy that was good for the time, but when times changed, he lost that temporary advantage.

2. If one reads Steenbarger's evaluation of him AFTER knowing what happened later, the whole thing comes across as total bullshit. Steenbarger's praising of him didn't stand the test of time, and all these Training+Experience+Talent= Profit sounds as hogwash...

Also as an example the whole case study makes me wonder, if a guy who once made 10 million bucks ends up with TST, what is the best an average trader can hope for???

Let's not forget that as a member of the exchange, he traded RT for pennies, unlike the retail trader paying $3-4 RT. He could scalp all day for one tick and mint money with any luck at all.
 
Time restriction is a major setup for failure. Your forced to trade when your gut doesn't scream out the setup. To get around this train your brain to follow other markets. So more setups appear. It's harder than it sounds. It takes a lot just to follow the nuances of one market. I'm up throughout the night monitoring prices and markets.

Just to be clear .. one doesn't have to trade 10 "straight" days ..
 
What if you were to trade the LTP and Funded account like the Combine? The same enthusiasm, concentration and determination among other things. Things that can affect you with real trading: the thought of you worrying about what your peers and family would think of you if you fail or start making the big bucks, wanting to make money asap, focus on other traders numbers, detailed info on every single tick once you are in the trade. What I have learned is that every single trade is a new beginning, a journey to hopefully get to your profit target. Many times I would evade from my system because "I know it all", get penalized for it and eventually sitting on the sidelines because my daily loss limit is at 95...% only to see that "hey that's my setup, that's another setup and the risk reward was a 7:1 ratio! Shit like that makes you follow your system even though you have thrown discipline out the door :).

Good point .. there is no reason why I couldn't trade the funded account like I would the other two - especially when they look exactly the same - .. most likely the mental baggage of focusing too much on building the cushion as much and as fast as possible ..
 
...and 10 years later you didn't have 5K to open a trading account. Nobody? Oh I see Scottie raising his hand...

For full disclosure, I also never lost 300K a year...

To explain it to Onemoreshot: There are 100s of people who made a killing in the late 90s just by going long on tech stocks. They had the right strategy for the right times. That doesn't mean they knew how to trade under all market conditions and I bet 98% lost money in the following market downturn.

I know a handful of guys who made millions and now broke/nearly broke when they started trading in 2007/2008 cause they took a course in spreading, but it is one thing to find a niche in extreme volatility and another to learn how to trade. And none of them learned how to chart. There is always going to be some ways to do well for brief periods, but if traders are unable to adapt for every changing environment, they will drain away what they made and why Topsteptrader is strong on drawdowns. Many don't believe in 2% rule on losses, but longer you trade, it actually goes smaller if you want to become a bit more conservative.
 
Good point .. there is no reason why I couldn't trade the funded account like I would the other two - especially when they look exactly the same - .. most likely the mental baggage of focusing too much on building the cushion as much and as fast as possible ..

"...especially when they look exactly the same."

They're not the same. The combine rules are different than the FTP/live account rules. You can always trade the combine AS IF it was a live account, and use the live account rules.

I posted in what seems like 100 pages ago regarding the cushion. It's the biggest hurdle of the live account. However if you can get past that level with enough equity and start to build size, then the TST opportunity offers great value for their live traders.
 
I never understood idiots like this dude. It is all about the numbers. Who cares if they founded 200 traders if only 10 of them make any decent amount of money? Get real or GTFO...

If you want to dream and drink the cool aid, so be it, just don't cry when you make let's say 2K with TST over a 4 months period before you eventually leave them, when you could have made 6-7 thousands by working for McDonalds during that same time period.

This is how the accounting should go....Opportunity cost...

And since you are a newbie here, all the changes TST has done in the last 2-3 years we have told them back 3+ years ago. So apparently we must be right and they were wrong...

Pekelo,

For whatever reason, some traders are incessantly fascinated by the number of funded traders (which TST defines as those who have passed a simulator), rather than measuring the probability of building equity in the live account.

Yes, opportunity cost is the only accurate way to measure if it's worth pursuing a business. The questions to ask haven't changed, and are as follows:

1. Can I pass the combine(s)?
2. Can I generate enough equity in the live account within the first 10 days and keep it active enough to take a check?
 
Being worried about everyone else is nothing but transference.

I doubt Pekelo is truly "worried about everyone else" lol!

I do agree with your point that it doesn't matter what others can do, a trader has to focus on his/her own capacity to advance.
 
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