Top Ten Tax Loopholes

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Like Ron Paul said, if you are going to talk about cutting programs like SS and medicare, which people depend on and into which they paid their whole working lives, you need to cut the nonessential stuff first.
The nonessential stuff, of which there is plenty, doesn't even seem to be on the table, with either party.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

The nonessential stuff, of which there is plenty, doesn't even seem to be on the table, with either party.

Sad, but true. Maybe they will stop my favorite useless program: The Mohair Subsidy. One of my friends claims he gets about $20K a year from this; helps with the bills on his 1200+acre "ranch," EG-as he says it covers his beer bill, especially when I visit.

From Wikipedia:

"During World War II, U.S. soldiers wore uniforms made of wool. Worried that domestic producers could not supply enough for future wars, Congress enacted loan and price support programs for wool and mohair in the National Wool Act of 1954 as part of the 1954 Farm Bill.[4] Despite these subsidies, wool and mohair production declined. The strategic importance declined as well; the US Military adopted uniforms made of synthetic fibers, such as dacron, and officially removed wool from the list of strategic materials in 1960.[5] Nevertheless, the U.S. government continued to provide subsidies to mohair producers until 1995, when the subsidies were "eliminated effective with the marketing year ending December 31, 1995."[4] In The Future of Freedom: Illiberal Democracy at Home and Abroad[6] Fareed Zakaria points out that the subsidies were reinstated a few years later, due in large part to the lobbying on behalf of the special interests of the subsidy recipients. By 2000, Congress had appropriated $20 million for goat and sheep producers.[7] As of 2002, mohair producers were still able to receive special assistance loans from the U.S. Government, after an amendment to eliminate the subsidy was defeated.[8] This program is widely cited as "pork barrel" legislation.[7]"



Seneca
 
Quote from seneca_roman:

Sad, but true. Maybe they will stop my favorite useless program: The Mohair Subsidy. One of my friends claims he gets about $20K a year from this; helps with the bills on his 1200+acre "ranch," EG-as he says it covers his beer bill, especially when I visit.

From Wikipedia:

"During World War II, U.S. soldiers wore uniforms made of wool. Worried that domestic producers could not supply enough for future wars, Congress enacted loan and price support programs for wool and mohair in the National Wool Act of 1954 as part of the 1954 Farm Bill.[4] Despite these subsidies, wool and mohair production declined. The strategic importance declined as well; the US Military adopted uniforms made of synthetic fibers, such as dacron, and officially removed wool from the list of strategic materials in 1960.[5] Nevertheless, the U.S. government continued to provide subsidies to mohair producers until 1995, when the subsidies were "eliminated effective with the marketing year ending December 31, 1995."[4] In The Future of Freedom: Illiberal Democracy at Home and Abroad[6] Fareed Zakaria points out that the subsidies were reinstated a few years later, due in large part to the lobbying on behalf of the special interests of the subsidy recipients. By 2000, Congress had appropriated $20 million for goat and sheep producers.[7] As of 2002, mohair producers were still able to receive special assistance loans from the U.S. Government, after an amendment to eliminate the subsidy was defeated.[8] This program is widely cited as "pork barrel" legislation.[7]"



Seneca

I saw an interview of a rancher a few years ago. He showed the journalist a 4 wheeler he had bought with his federal subsidies.
He openly admitted what he was being given was absurd but he figured if the feds were dumb enough to give it to him he might as well take it.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

I saw an interview of a rancher a few years ago. He showed the journalist a 4 wheeler he had bought with his federal subsidies.
He openly admitted what he was being given was absurd but he figured if the feds were dumb enough to give it to him he might as well take it.

My friend who owns the ranch and I will drink to that next time we get together.

:D
 
Quote from seneca_roman:

My friend who owns the ranch and I will drink to that next time we get together.

:D

Well since it's "free" government money you might as well have one for me too. :)
 
Quote from Ricter:

He was willing to cut medicare and SS in a naive attempt to get some concessions from republicans.

The "productive class"... aka the "job creators"? lol.

Yeah, older people are maybe 50/50 Democrats, Obama can toss them out of the lifeboat and not break a sweat.. but don't talk to him about cutting entitlements to the inner city reservations, he has 95% of those votes locked up and he is going to not risk losing that. Without those votes he's on the dole himself...
 
Quote from Eight:

Yeah, older people are maybe 50/50 Democrats, Obama can toss them out of the lifeboat and not break a sweat.. but don't talk to him about cutting entitlements to the inner city reservations, he has 95% of those votes locked up and he is going to not risk losing that. Without those votes he's on the dole himself...

How many inner city blacks vote, hell most the men have felony records.
 
I can't even take the article/site seriously because of the blatant misleading usage (ill-informed, stupid, or most likely malicious intent) of the word "loophole" for the purpose of describing these tax credits.

TAX CREDITS are NOT LOOPHOLES ... WTF? :confused:

Seems to be typical politically based manipulation going on here. Folks should really question what they're reading.

A definition for you:

A loophole is an ambiguity in a system, such as a law or security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent, implied or explicitly stated, of the system.
 
Quote from Mr_You:

I can't even take the article/site seriously because of the blatant misleading usage (ill-informed, stupid, or most likely malicious intent) of the word "loophole" for the purpose of describing these tax credits.

TAX CREDITS are NOT LOOPHOLES ... WTF? :confused:

Seems to be typical politically based manipulation going on here. Folks should really question what they're reading.

A definition for you:

A loophole is an ambiguity in a system, such as a law or security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent, implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

None of these are CREDITS-were you trying to play the manipulation game by mis-stating what these are? They are provisions in the tax code that help people avoid paying taxes and through common useage have become known as "loopholes" even by President Obama when he refers to the section of the tax code that helps oil companies reduce their tax burden.

I posted the list in another way without using "loopholes"; hope you feel better:

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NOTE: The source is the Whitehouse!
 

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