Top IRS official will invoke the 5th amendment

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

In the rightie bubble if you exercise your 2nd amendment rights you're a patriot.If you exercise your 5th amendment rights your a criminal LOL !!!!

Incredibly stupid statement. The gun control 'debate' was directly based on the 2nd Amendment. This case has NOTHING to do with the 5th, no one is saying she can't exercise her right. They're saying by doing so, she is raising suspicion not alleviating it, especially considering the IRS has already admitted to wrongdoing. If you didn't rub one out to obama every night you would understand the difference.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

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Lois Lerner:

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Quote from bigarrow:

It's only because I'm a lucky fucker that I haven't gotten one myself.

That reminds me of that night.

While being booked the officer starts chatting me up. Inquiring as to whether that evening was just one of those things so to speak. At this point I figured my goose was cooked so being honest wouldn't hurt. So I admitted I had been drinking and driving for years.

The officer asks: "how'd you manage to avoid getting caught for so long"?
I thought for a second then replied: "just lucky I guess".

He saw the irony and got a chuckle out of it.
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

Incredibly stupid statement. The gun control 'debate' was directly based on the 2nd Amendment. This case has NOTHING to do with the 5th, no one is saying she can't exercise her right.
"Bunch of fucking scumbags..."

They're saying by doing so, she is raising suspicion not alleviating it,
The downside to pleading the 5th, for anyone.
 
Quote from Ricter:

1) "Bunch of fucking scumbags..."


2) The downside to pleading the 5th, for anyone.

1) I doubt anyone expects her to admit her own guilt, but the IRS already apologized for wrongdoing so her pleading the 5th is like pouring gas on fire. She is a public servant and even obama agreed that what they did was wrong (publicly anyway) so her not cooperating with Congress is a scumbag move. We can only elect Congress, if bureaucrats feel they don't have to answer to them, or really don't, it just reinforces the position that this govt is out of control.

2) You would only plead the 5th because you don't want to say something that could get you into legal trouble. So it is an automatic assumption that you are hiding something. That may not be the case but it's a reason to investigate.

Anyway the point was this isn't about the 5th Amendment, but the actions of the IRS, unlike the attack on the 2nd Amendment. Which is why Ak's attempt to point out some kind of hypocrisy, was DUMB.
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

1) I doubt anyone expects her to admit her own guilt, but the IRS already apologized for wrongdoing so her pleading the 5th is like pouring gas on fire. She is a public servant and even obama agreed that what they did was wrong (publicly anyway) so her not cooperating with Congress is a scumbag move. We can only elect Congress, if bureaucrats feel they don't have to answer to them, or really don't, it just reinforces the position that this govt is out of control.

2) You would only plead the 5th because you don't want to say something that could get you into legal trouble. So it is an automatic assumption that you are hiding something. That may not be the case but it's a reason to investigate.

Anyway the point was this isn't about the 5th Amendment, but the actions of the IRS, unlike the attack on the 2nd Amendment. Which is why Ak's attempt to point out some kind of hypocrisy, was DUMB.

This is irrelevant, the main reason someone pleads the 5th is to reduce the chance of criminal prosecution. If there is a chance she could go to jail then it would be stupid for her to testify. I wouldn't fall on my sword for the IRS either.

EDIT: Sorry piggy I just repeated about what you said, we're in agreement.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

This is irrelevant, the main reason someone pleads the 5th is to reduce the chance of criminal prosecution. If there is a chance she could go to jail then it would be stupid for her to testify. I wouldn't fall on my sword for the IRS either.

EDIT: Sorry piggy I just repeated about what you said, we're in agreement.

Sorry about your wife.. otherwise i would clown on you right now. :)
 
Quote from Lucrum:

That reminds me of that night.

While being booked the officer starts chatting me up. Inquiring as to whether that evening was just one of those things so to speak. At this point I figured my goose was cooked so being honest wouldn't hurt. So I admitted I had been drinking and driving for years.

The officer asks: "how'd you manage to avoid getting caught for so long"?
I thought for a second then replied: "just lucky I guess".

He saw the irony and got a chuckle out of it.

Most of my partying years I was younger and I worked on the fire department and back then unless you were a total ass you could get a break. I was pulled over quite a few times after a night of partying but they always let me drive on, never even got a warning. Once a buddy and I were coming home from the titty bar and a state trooper pulled us over, my buddy was lit and failed the road side test and the trooper asked if I'd been drinking and I told him yes then he asked if I was in good enough shape to drive again I said yes and told me to drive and off we went and this happened after I got off the fire department. Like I said I've been lucky.
 
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