Top IRS official will invoke the 5th amendment

Quote from bigarrow:

Duhhh, the part where you said
"it is an admission of illegal wrong doing. Nothing more, nothing less. "

That is the part that isn't in my copy of the constitution, I hope you're just fucking with me and you aren't really this dense.
No, I was applying common sense. Something many on the left fail to do most of the time.

The 5th amendment is provided to prevent one from being forced to incriminate themselves. In order to plead it, one has to have something that would probably result in ones incrimination of a crime.

Therefore, most rightfully believe that when someone pleads their right not to incriminate themselves, they have something to be incriminated for.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Why, you guilty of a felony as well? LOL
But, on the other hand, aren't we all? We just haven't been told by the government what crime we have committed, yet. :mad:
 
others who have taken the 5th to avoid incriminating themselves and their co conspirators...

http://www.listafterlist.com/tabid/...s/Famous+People+Who+have+Pleaded+the+5th.aspx


Jack Abramoff - Government - Lobbyist, friends with Tom DeLay

Mumia Abu-Jamal - Criminal- Free Mumia With Every Purchase

Jim Bell - Activist - Assassination Politics

Conrad Black - Business - Rapacious newspaper mogul

David Bohm - Physicist - Particle physicist

Joe Bonanno - Criminal - Bonanno crime family

Christian Brando - Relative - Son of Marlon Brando

Stokely Carmichael - Activist - Black separatist, Pan-Africanist

Willis Carto - Activist - Founder of Liberty Lobby, IHR

Miss Cleo - Paranormal fraud - Psychic fraud takes VISA, M/C

Edwin Corr - Diplomat - US Ambassador to El Salvador, 1985-88

A. C. Cowlings - Football - O.J.'s best friend

Edward Dmytryk - Film Director - The Caine Mutiny

Bernard Ebbers - Business - CEO of WorldCom, 1985-2002

Eminem - Rapper - White rapper star of 8 Mile

Robert Evans - Film/TV Producer - The Kid Stays In The Picture

Andrew Fastow - Business - Disgraced CFO of Enron

Ari Fleischer - Government - Former White House Press Secretary

Ernie Fletcher - Politician - Governor of Kentucky

Mark Fuhrman - Government - Former LAPD detective, O. J. Simpson case

Sam Giancana - Criminal - Chicago Mafia boss, 1957-66

Monica Goodling - Government - DoJ spokeswoman

Lloyd Gough - Actor - Blacklisted character actor

Richard Grasso - Business - CEO of the NYSE, 1995-2003

Maurice R. Greenberg - Business - American International Group ex-CEO

Dashiell Hammett - Author - The Maltese Falcon

Patty Hearst - Victim - Kidnapped by SLA

Lillian Hellman - Playwright - Little Foxes

Lon Horiuchi - Government - Sniper who killed Vicki Weaver

Webb Hubbell - Criminal - Whitewater casualty

H. Wayne Huizenga - Business - Waste Management, Blockbuster

E. Howard Hunt - Criminal - Coordinated Watergate break-in

Bernard Kerik - Government - NYC Police Commissioner, 2000-01

Don King - Boxing - Boxing promoter for Mike Tyson and others

Ken Lay - Business - CEO of Enron, 1986-2002

G. Gordon Liddy - Government - Watergate criminal cum talk-show-host

Lee Malvo - Criminal - One of the two Washington Snipers

Karen Morley - Actor - Gabriel Over the White House

Willie Nelson - Country Musician - The red-headed stranger

Oliver North - Military - Perjuring Iran-Contra figure

Dorothy Parker - Author - Constant Reader known for her acerbic quips

Scott Peterson - Criminal - Murdered pregnant wife Laci

John Poindexter - Military - Iran-Contra criminal

Frank Quattrone - Business - Troubled securities banker

Susan Ralston - Government - Former Abramoff, Rove aide

John Randolph - Actor - Prizzi's Honor

Denise Rich - Socialite - Marc Rich's ex-wife

Paul Robeson - Singer - 20th Century renaissance man

Ethel Rosenberg - Relative - Executed for being married to Julius Rosenberg

Julius Rosenberg - Spy - Leaked atomic bomb secrets to USSR

George Ryan - Politician - Governor of Illinois, 1999-2003

Richard Scrushy - Business - Imprisoned CEO of HealthSouth

Bobby Seale - Activist - Co-founder of the Black Panther Party

O. J. Simpson - Football - Searching tirelessly for the real killers

Jeffrey Skilling - Business - Disgraced CEO of Enron

Gale Sondergaard - Actor - Anthony Adverse

Marylin Star - Pornstar - Ex-Pornstar, insider trader

Parnell Thomas - Government - HUAC chairman

James Traficant - Politician - Ohio Congressman now in prison

Linda Tripp - Government - Monica Lewinsky's confidant

Richard Trumka - Labor Leader - AFL-CIO Secretary-Treasurer

Janet Ventura-Arvizo - Relative - Gavin Arvizo's mother

Sam Waksal - Business - CEO, ImClone

Wallace Wilkinson - Politician - Governor of Kentucky, 1987-91


Read more: http://www.listafterlist.com/tabid/...e+Who+have+Pleaded+the+5th.aspx#ixzz2TyZkkfPI
 
NBC Harwood: worst thing for White House if she pleads the fifth:

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Expect to hear Cindy Thomas name next.

IRS Chain of Command Suggests Scandal Not Limited to 'Low-Level Employees'

After the IRS revealed it had wrongly targeted hundreds of conservative and Tea Party groups, the agency claimed that the misconduct was limited to "low-level employees" in its Cincinnati office. Yesterday, the attorney for Lois Lerner, the head of the IRS’s tax-exempt organizations division, told the House Oversight Committee she would invoke her Fifth Amendment rights, making that explanation much less credible.

Now the local Cincinnati Fox affiliate, FOX19, has done some digging and uncovered information suggesting that top officials at the IRS weren't too far removed from the six low-level employees identified as making unjustified inquiries. Fox19 has not only identified all six IRS agents in question, it turns out that they all have only one supervisor in common:

When an application for tax exempt status comes into the IRS, agents have 270 days to work through that application. If the application is not processed within those 270 days it automatically triggers flags in the system. When that happens, individual agents are required to input a status update on that individual case once a month, every month until the case is resolved. ...

So who in the chain of command would have received all these flags? The answer, according to the IRS directory, one woman in Cincinnati, Cindy Thomas, the Program Manager of the Tax Exempt Division. Because all six of our IRS workers have different individual and territory managers, Cindy Thomas is one manager they all have common.

Cindy Thomas's name is significant, because Thomas is the woman who leaked nine tax documents to the journalism outlet ProPublica last year. The leaking of pending tax documents is a clear violation of the law. After having uncovered the nature of Thomas's involvement, FOX19 looks at her place in the IRS chain of command:

Former Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller… retires

Joseph Grant, Commissioner of Tax Exempt and Government Entities... retires.

Lois Lerner, Head of Exempt Organization…says she will invoke her 5th amendment right to not incriminate herself when called before Congress on Wednesday.

Holly Paz, Director of Exempt Organizations, subpoenaed to Washington to be interviewed by members of Congress.

All of this IRS leadership, in Washington D.C.

Then one level down is Cindy Thomas, the highest ranking employee in Cincinnati in this Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department that no one in Congress is talking to... yet.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...l-not-limited-low-level-employees_728777.html
 
Quote from bigarrow:

Duhhh, the part where you said
"it is an admission of illegal wrong doing. Nothing more, nothing less. "

That is the part that isn't in my copy of the constitution, I hope you're just fucking with me and you aren't really this dense.

You're the one being dense. Why else would someone invoke the 5th. It so you don't incriminate your self. Only a guilty person can do that.
 
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Long but interesting and well worth it.
 
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