Top Beijing Official Now Admits that China-Made Vaccine has Low Efficacy Rate

[JSOP]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ing-covid-vaccines-to-give-greater-protection

Have been saying that all along but it is a positive change that China is able to be honest about its own products instead of always blindly praising it due to nationalism. Kudos to him! Admire his courage. Hope he's not going to get into trouble with the Powers Up There.

 

[Overnight]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ing-covid-vaccines-to-give-greater-protection

Have been saying that all along but it is a positive change that China is able to be honest about its own products instead of always blindly praising it due to nationalism. Kudos to him! Admire his courage. Hope he's not going to get into trouble with the Powers Up There.

I don't think anyone here will give a shit about anything China does. They have not come out with anything original since gunpowder, and they steal everything around them, claim it as their own, and lie to the world. Like how they had 20,000 cases of COVID after a year, and like 500 deaths. Yeah, right, with their 1.1 billion person population.

Commie punks. They can all eat a dick.

 

[HobbyTrading]

I don't think anyone here will give a shit about anything China does.

I believe it does matter what the Chinese vaccine does. As it is being exported to many countries and those countries rely on it. If the people who received it all believe that they are protected from the virus but half of them still catch it, then that can cause major health implications in those countries.
It is concerning that this vaccine has a much lower efficacy than the other vaccines.

 

[Overnight]

I believe it does matter what the Chinese vaccine does...

You completely missed the point. It is a top Chinese official that says their own vaccine is not effective.

This is the same country that claimed that the COVID was planted in China by US operatives.

Nothing these Commie fucks put out in media can be believed. Does China even HAVE their own vaccine, or did they try to reverse-engineer the pfizer/moderna? Fucking commie asshole bastards.

I hope you enjoy your X-Mas string lights. P.S. Don't let your kids touch them, because they are covered in lead dust. Did you know lead leads to brain cancer and stupid in children? Made in China. FUCK OFF.

 

[FortuneTeller]

China should work on depopulating their own country instead of the whole world.

 

[JSOP]

I don't think anyone here will give a shit about anything China does. They have not come out with anything original since gunpowder, and they steal everything around them, claim it as their own, and lie to the world. Like how they had 20,000 cases of COVID after a year, and like 500 deaths. Yeah, right, with their 1.1 billion person population.

Commie punks. They can all eat a dick.

You are missing the point here. Regardless of everything else that China did or did not do, this is the time China has actually admitted flaws in what they have done instead of praising it.

It already ate a dick, using your own terms. Give it a rest!

 

[Overnight]

...this is the time China has actually admitted flaws in what they have done instead of praising it...

OK. Let's see how long this transparency lasts.

 

[JSOP]

I believe it does matter what the Chinese vaccine does. As it is being exported to many countries and those countries rely on it. If the people who received it all believe that they are protected from the virus but half of them still catch it, then that can cause major health implications in those countries.
It is concerning that this vaccine has a much lower efficacy than the other vaccines.

Same here. What is concerning is that the efficacy rates of its Sinovac vaccine varies so much depending on the country that tests it. It varied all the way from 60+% effective all the way to 90% effective tested by Turkey. And it changes all the time. Originally it was rated as 86% effective by Brazil and now it's changed to 50+%. Turkey originally tested it to be 90% effective and now it's revised the effective rate to be 83%. So there is a lot of confusion with this vaccine and it really doesn't help for all the countries that have already signed up with China for all their vaccines and now they are finding out it's only going to protect them with 50% effectiveness, pretty much like rolling a dice.

But in my opinion, China's vaccine Sinovac should have the same effectiveness as AstraZeneca or Johnson & Johnson because all three of them use exactly the same technology, adenovirus. And both AstraZeneca and Johnson & John has about 67% - 76% effectiveness depending on whether it's against asymptomatic or mild cases of the disease so China's Sinovac should be the same and is shown to be the same according to various tests conducted by various countries. But this is against the original unmutated virus, according to numerous studies and particularly this one:

"Lab tests have suggested so far that the major approved vaccines will work against P1, but with reduced efficacy. A study from Oxford University, published on 30 March in the peer reviewed journal Cell, looked at the antibody response in blood samples from people with P1 elicited by the AstraZeneca and also the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines. They showed nearly a threefold reduction in neutralisation, so efficacy is reduced".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/01/brazil-covid-variant-p1-britain

In other words, all vaccines had neutralization reduced by 1/3, if AstraZeneca only had on average 76% efficacy rate, then after 1/3 reduction against the virus strain with the mutated variants, it would only have (76 * (1 -0.33333333333)) = 50% efficacy. So if China's Sinovac had about the same efficacy rate as AstaZeneca against the original virus, then it makes sense that its real efficacy rate is 50 something % against the virus with the mutated variant strains.

So it's commendable that China this time has come forward with an honest admission of the effective rate of its vaccine but people also need to compare apple with apple and oranges with oranges here and understand its effectiveness rate within the correct context and understand that China's vaccine's effectiveness rating is taking into account of the mutated variants which reduces the efficacy of all existing vaccines including IMO the best vaccine from Pfizer-Biotech.

 

[JSOP]

China should work on depopulating their own country instead of the whole world.

It did, for 2 decades!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy of course with horrible human rights violation, trampling on personal freedom, devastating atrocities...

China can't really win on this one. If it didn't control its population like India, it's accused of overpopulating, destroying the environment, blah blah blah. When it tried to control its population, it's committing human rights violations, trampling on personal freedom, devastating atrocities which it did unfortunately...

 

[JSOP]

OK. Let's see how long this transparency lasts.

China's vaccine efficacy rate is really in line with that of other Adenovirus types of vaccines like AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson. In the face of mutated variants, they all have an efficacy rate of about 50% so the effective rate of China's vaccine is not really lower.

both AstraZeneca and Johnson & John has about 67% - 76% effectiveness depending on whether it's against asymptomatic or mild cases of the disease so China's Sinovac should be the same and is shown to be the same according to various tests conducted by various countries. But this is against the original unmutated virus, according to numerous studies and particularly this one:

"Lab tests have suggested so far that the major approved vaccines will work against P1, but with reduced efficacy. A study from Oxford University, published on 30 March in the peer reviewed journal Cell, looked at the antibody response in blood samples from people with P1 elicited by the AstraZeneca and also the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines. They showed nearly a threefold reduction in neutralisation, so efficacy is reduced".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/01/brazil-covid-variant-p1-britain

In other words, all vaccines had neutralization reduced by 1/3, if AstraZeneca only had on average 76% efficacy rate, then after 1/3 reduction against the virus strain with the mutated variants, it would only have (76 * (1 -0.33333333333)) = 50% efficacy. So if China's Sinovac had about the same efficacy rate as AstaZeneca against the original virus, then it makes sense that its real efficacy rate is 50 something % against the virus with the mutated variant strains.