Tone Deaf

[Wallet]

• Why do people, and this is more of a liberal problem, try to force their viewpoints, beliefs on others and demand compliance? It’s come to point in society today that opposing views, speech have to be silenced.

I don't care what others say until they say I can not say my opinion.

• If someone posts something you find offensive, report it. Block the individual if you wish, that way you don’t have to deal with it. But trying to force ET, Baron into banning or censoring someone by slander and coercion???

As stated, I've never reported anything that's stated in the Political sections.

In contrast, I have reported message posts in the trading related threads. In fact, I remember the very first message post I reported via a private message to a moderator...

An ET member threaten to shoot someone after another member publicly posted his home address. Seriously, if people can't behave themselves outside of the Political / Chit Chat threads...

In my opinion, they should not be welcome here and their violation of the terms of use policy...those messages should be deleted and they were in fact...deleted.

Yet, there's a problem with the ignore / block feature because its being abused as noted by others in other threads and by Baron himself although such has been occurring for many years.

• That would be the people bitching about and reporting others content that doesn’t jive with their personal and political views.

Personally, wouldn't have a problem with your Politics but if someone cross the line / attack me via a personal attack in a trading related thread that's not the Politics section...that would be very problematic. I sometimes refer to it as barking up the wrong tree.

Yet, I still would not report you if such is done the exact same thing...word for word in the Politics section.

Baron created the Politics section for Political / Chit Chat bullshit discussions. The issue I have is when it spills over into the trading related sections and used to troll someone especially when someone uses my user name in their rants...continuing after they are ignored / blocked.

Simply, I don't like your Politics. We can agree to disagree. Yet, don't tell me I can not express my Politics nor get mad when I call out people for getting mad at me when I express my Politics in the Political threads nor get mad at me when I call out those getting mad at me in the trading related threads about something I stated in the Politics thread.

By the way, the people on my ignore / block list has nothing to do with their Politics or anything they said in the Politics section. I ignore / block people for something they said in the trading related threads.

The problem is that some people don't see ET as a trading forum. Instead, they see ET as a Political forum or Chit Chat forum.

Isn't that concerning too you for those that are here to talk about trading ?

P.S. In my opinion...your questions to me specifically isn't a feedback issue. Instead, you can just send me a reply via private message.

wrbtrader

You publicly suggested to another poster that if they were not satisfied with Baron’s response to reported posts, they should seek options “outside ET”, other social media and contacting sponsors to force Baron’s compliance.

That’s unacceptable imo.

I understand the block/ignore debate, it’s being abused, as well as the differences between the trading threads vs community section/P&R and the need to keep the trading threads on topic and clean.

In the P&R there’s a few posters, on both sides, that purposely post the most offensive crap for no other reason than to troll the opposition. Then there’s a few with an axe to grind.

As long as posts aren’t breaking the law, and conform the sites code of conduct..... if you don’t like what’s playing on the tube, change the channel but don’t expect the station to get rid of the show just because you don’t like it.

Done with the conversation.

 

[Overnight]

The whole blocking thing kind of sucks.

I can understand why people would want to block others, but my perspective is skewed by the experience of BBS/forums.

My experience says to me that no matter how much you may dislike a person's constant blah blah spam, there may be a thread off in some other section that will cause you to have an aha! moment, were you to be able to see that person's post.

That aha! moment can lead to huge monetary gains for yourself. I do not mean through some secret indicator or some such. I mean simply by reading the offending user's idea.

Blocking people can cut you off from a valuable resource. You NEVER know where or from whom that golden egg will be laid.

In my own experience, I have been blocked by a few folks, and they have removed the blocks since then. Tsing Tao, Dest (who blocked me a couple times and with Poopy as well,) and a few others that I cannot recall at this moment, that I can now speak with. And we get along. I remember the Kcalhoun incident, but that did not get to block stage. That got to the "Let's give ourselves distance and STFU for a while" stage. That worked too. No need for block on that one.

I think mickey had me on block at some point...Cannot recall exactly... Mreh. The point here is...

I do not think a perma-block is the best idea. A timed-block of 30 days is a great way to give users their own form of "self moderation".

Folks, no matter what you think of a person, that person can change in the 30-day period, and you can become best of chat buds! I've seen it happen! Never dismiss anyone out of hand forever! People change!

 

[wrbtrader]

You publicly suggested to another poster that if they were not satisfied with Baron’s response to reported posts, they should seek options “outside ET”, other social media and contacting sponsors to force Baron’s compliance.

That’s unacceptable imo.

I understand the block/ignore debate, it’s being abused, as well as the differences between the trading threads vs community section/P&R and the need to keep the trading threads on topic and clean.

In the P&R there’s a few posters, on both sides, that purposely post the most offensive crap for no other reason than to troll the opposition. Then there’s a few with an axe to grind.

As long as posts aren’t breaking the law, and conform the sites code of conduct..... if you don’t like what’s playing on the tube, change the channel but don’t expect the station to get rid of the show just because you don’t like it.

Done with the conversation.

I'm talking about the threats in some of the hate threads no matter how hard you try to navigate around that issue.

As stated...you're welcome to continue the conversation via private message instead of complaining about me calling out people making threats and trying to figure out why they're then linking to those threats / hate messages at other social media sites.

All the other offensive crap...its the norm in my opinion in the Political threads.

P.S. If you want to continue the talk...send me a private message.

wrbtrader

 

[wrbtrader]

...That aha! moment can lead to huge monetary gains for yourself. I do not mean through some secret indicator or some such. I mean simply by reading the offending user's idea...

Depends upon whom you ignore / block especially if its someone that rarely post any trading related "aha moments".

Lets put it this way, has anyone lead you to huge monetary gains for yourself and you then said to yourself...

Glad I didn't follow through in ignoring / blocking that person because I would have missed out on all this money from the person's ideas.

wrbtrader

 

[Frederick Foresight]

What was said, that was racist?

So, you haven't seen any racist posts in the politics forum? Really?

 

[Tsing Tao]

The whole blocking thing kind of sucks.

I can understand why people would want to block others, but my perspective is skewed by the experience of BBS/forums.

My experience says to me that no matter how much you may dislike a person's constant blah blah spam, there may be a thread off in some other section that will cause you to have an aha! moment, were you to be able to see that person's post.

That aha! moment can lead to huge monetary gains for yourself. I do not mean through some secret indicator or some such. I mean simply by reading the offending user's idea.

Blocking people can cut you off from a valuable resource. You NEVER know where or from whom that golden egg will be laid.

In my own experience, I have been blocked by a few folks, and they have removed the blocks since then. Tsing Tao, Dest (who blocked me a couple times and with Poopy as well,) and a few others that I cannot recall at this moment, that I can now speak with. And we get along. I remember the Kcalhoun incident, but that did not get to block stage. That got to the "Let's give ourselves distance and STFU for a while" stage. That worked too. No need for block on that one.

I think mickey had me on block at some point...Cannot recall exactly... Mreh. The point here is...

I do not think a perma-block is the best idea. A timed-block of 30 days is a great way to give users their own form of "self moderation".

Folks, no matter what you think of a person, that person can change in the 30-day period, and you can become best of chat buds! I've seen it happen! Never dismiss anyone out of hand forever! People change!

I honestly don't remember having you blocked. I believe you, and probably did. But I purposely go through my list and remove all but the most dedicated trolls every 8-12 months just to see if things are different. People change, as you said. Who knows? I may have had a bad day when I put someone on and its actually my fault. This hopefully addresses that.

I'm glad to have removed you. You're a funny dude and I've had some good laughs at some of your posts since. Again, I cannot figure out why I would have blocked you in the first place.

As for folks who are abusing the block function, I seriously don't get it. You put people on block to get rid of them. Who gives a red cent what they say after you do, or whether they follow you around?

I took Fred off too, and while we've had some tense moments, I've enjoyed our discourse since.

 

[Overnight]

I honestly don't remember having you blocked. I believe you, and probably did. But I purposely go through my list and remove all but the most dedicated trolls every 8-12 months just to see if things are different. People change, as you said. Who knows? I may have had a bad day when I put someone on and its actually my fault. This hopefully addresses that.

I'm glad to have removed you. You're a funny dude and I've had some good laughs at some of your posts since. Again, I cannot figure out why I would have blocked you in the first place.
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Yeah Tsing, it was a couple of years. No worries. Bad hair day I guess.

 

[Overnight]

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Lets put it this way, has anyone lead you to huge monetary gains for yourself and you then said to yourself...

Glad I didn't follow through in ignoring / blocking that person because I would have missed out on all this money from the person's ideas.

wrbtrader

No, but that does not discount the idea. The foundation is solid.