To the Moderators

Quote from hypostomus:

...the Phoenix's admirable odyssey of development as a REAL trader was documented elsewhere in many open and honest posts. He has a history, has left a trail, and has helped innumerable aspiring traders along the way by his sharing and his example. That is more than I can discern about you, as you cast no perceptible shadow, at least in your present and presumably transient identity.

Having corresponded with him many times on system development issues, I can assure you that, although I do not know him in person, he knows his shit. His only faults are that he can't stand cant, buffoonery, self-aggrandizement, self-promotion, braggadocio, extreme illogic, and absurd undocumented claims. That covers a lot of territory here and cuts quite a few posters deep. Much to his credit, unlike some folks here who lambaste in others what they hate in themselves, he does not personify the flaws he castigates.

I'm still waiting for all your examples of pt pigeons trading prowess. Surely he must have mentioned a ticker symbol, or even a trade and a direction in 1 of his 3000 posts? Isn't this what ET is about: TRADING!!

Now please show me one instance in which he's given us his prowess as a REAL trader. I anxiously await your response.

ps. This is not going away. You said pt pigeon contributes specific trading ideas to EliteTrader. And I ask you where?
 
Quote from Andre:

I personally don't think it's the role of moderators in online community to go looking for things.

There are those who manage communities who feel they should enforce TOS across the board with consistency the sole arbiter. I don't agree.

I don't think folks have any idea how hard it is to limit aliases.

And payment's got to be weighed against the barrier that people feel against paying.

There is one sure way to deal with assholes and those masquerading as people who know what they're talking about... ignore them.

Are you feeding the trolls, DB?

Your election to ignore the problem, including the violations of TOS, is unfortunately typical. Inandlong said much the same thing recently. No, Andre, "language" in and of itself is not the problem, but when people are calling each other assholes, there is some indication that perhaps not all is as well as you would like to believe it is. And language provides a conventient means for finding TOS violations. But then, you've elected to ignore these violations, there's really no reason for you to be sensitive to them.

People avoiding the site because it enforces standards? Gee, what kind of people do you think would do so? Exactly that demographic that the advertisers are looking for?

As for aliases and payment and Ignore, that's all been covered and I'm not going to waste my time copying and pasting. If you haven't the time to read the thread, then save yourself the trouble.

But as for your not agreeing that TOS should apply to everyone, that, in a nutshell, is the problem, largely because so many other moderators agree with you. Feeding the trolls? Why are the trolls here? Because you're not doing your job.

All of which takes me back to my first post in the "Baron" thread, that the site is exactly what the administrator and the moderators want it to be. If it weren't, they'd change it. But they have no interest in changing it. So complaints are a waste of time. Though given yesterday's events, I do have to give aphexcoil some credit for some sense of taste and decorum.
 
Quote from dbphoenix:

All of which takes me back to my first post in the "Baron" thread, that the site is exactly what the administrator and the moderators want it to be. If it weren't, they'd change it. But they have no interest in changing it. So complaints are a waste of time. Though given yesterday's events, I do have to give aphexcoil some credit for some sense of taste and decorum.

So complaints are a waste of time? Then why have you been crying for days about this? This is so typical of YOU, pt pigeon! I now call your contradictions "pigeon talk" (ET jargon for double talk).

Let's find a few examples of pigeon talk. You cried about lack of enforcement of TOS, yet stayed very quiet when mr. market violated it on every other post. More pigeon talk? You cynically attack those that stick their neck out and make bold market calls on a site for "traders", yet you NEVER have gone out on any limb and described a current position you are holding.

Me thinks you are afraid of getting your head handed to you when you stick your neck out, so you don't. Unfortunately, good traders are not afraid to discuss what they are doing.

But keep complaining about a website that isn't yours. You definitely have my vote for "crybaby of the year".
 
James, what is your problem?
Name calling is for babies.
Get a grip on yourself man.
This is pathetic.

PS....I have changed my mind.
Please do as you said in your closed thread and LEAVE.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.:(
 
Quote from Gordon Gekko:

at least when i've bitched in feedback, i had a point... anyone know what dbphoenix's is?!?

:confused:



I just don't get it either, GG.

He never ever fails to be man on the spot with his arrogant jabs anytime someone's conception of trading, or making money trading, differs from his own. And yet the prick puts on the facade of being above all that.

He'll latch onto the tiniest, most inconsequential detail just so that he can keep trying to keep afloat the sinking ship that is his position. He does it time after time after time. As Longshot would say, what a maroon.

How mature can he truly be if he hasn't worked out one of life's simplest rules, that when you ignore attention seekers they tend to go away. Duh-uh-uh-uh. But nooooo, this traffic cop wannabe has to bitch and moan and bitch and moan and bitch and moan -- you'd think it was a tragedy of international proportions. "Reporting TOS violations". Oh lordy.

I just can't understand what the hell is so hard about ignoring a post. Who cares that other people quote it and others then respond to the quote. Just freakin ignore it. It would have to be the simplest (and most effective and efficient) solution in the history of the world.

He probably thinks he's being helpful. Someone wanna clock him for me to see if he wakes up? How much of a help are you going to be if your perceived as an arrogant, self-righteous know it all? Can anyone ever recall a post he made that didn't reek of arrogance? That even hinted there might be another way of looking at something apart from his own?
 
Quote from bobcathy1:

James, what is your problem?
Name calling is for babies.
Get a grip on yourself man.
This is pathetic.

PS....I have changed my mind.
Please do as you said in your closed thread and LEAVE.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.:(

What's the old saying? Oh. That's so funny I forgot to laugh.

And as long as your sticking your nose where it doesn't belong, where exactly do I say "Please do as you said in your closed thread and LEAVE"??

Misquoting and misrepresenting is for losers. Are you a loser too?

And lastly, why single me out when there are MANY people here in this thread saying the same thing about pt pigeon? Me thinks you're trying to pick on the wrong hombre.
 
Quote from spect8or:

I just don't get it either, GG.

He never ever fails to be man on the spot with his arrogant jabs anytime someone's conception of trading, or making money trading, differs from his own. And yet the prick puts on the facade of being above all that.

He'll latch onto the tiniest, most inconsequential detail just so that he can keep trying to keep afloat the sinking ship that is his position. He does it time after time after time. As Longshot would say, what a maroon.

How mature can he truly be if he hasn't worked out one of life's simplest rules, that when you ignore attention seekers they tend to go away. Duh-uh-uh-uh. But nooooo, this traffic cop wannabe has to bitch and moan and bitch and moan and bitch and moan -- you'd think it was a tragedy of international proportions. "Reporting TOS violations". Oh lordy.

I just can't understand what the hell is so hard about ignoring a post. Who cares that other people quote it and others then respond to the quote. Just freakin ignore it. It would have to be the simplest (and most effective and efficient) solution in the history of the world.

He probably thinks he's being helpful. Someone wanna clock him for me to see if he wakes up? How much of a help are you going to be if your perceived as an arrogant, self-righteous know it all? Can anyone ever recall a post he made that didn't reek of arrogance? That even hinted there might be another way of looking at something apart from his own?

It's called "pigeon talk". And you said it exactly right.

Will someone please clock pt pigeon and see if it wakes him up, or knocks his undeserved arrogance out of him? Come on, pt pigeon, wanna come out and get your arse kicked?
 
Quote from James Stock:

What's the old saying? Oh. That's so funny I forgot to laugh.

And as long as your sticking your nose where it doesn't belong, where exactly do I say "Please do as you said in your closed thread and LEAVE"??

Misquoting and misrepresenting is for losers. Are you a loser too?

And lastly, why single me out when there are MANY people here in this thread saying the same thing about pt pigeon? Me thinks you're trying to pick on the wrong hombre.

No James Stock....you are the loser.
Just look at your posts.
They are plain embarrassing.
Name calling?
Wild guessing?

I have been asking everyone to cool it.
I have rights too.
I get tired of sifting through this stuff.
It is so juvenile.
:(
 
Quote from bobcathy1:

No James Stock....you are the loser.
Just look at your posts.
They are plain embarrassing.
Name calling?
Wild guessing?

I have been asking everyone to cool it.
I have rights too.
I get tired of sifting through this stuff.
It is so juvenile.
:(

I say you are a hypocrite! You denounce name calling, and then call me a loser. Hmmm.

You talk constantly about using the ignore button, and then say you get tired of sifting through the stuff. What stuff? Who asked you to read through this and comment? Hmm.

You talk about "wild guessing"? what are you talking about? Hmmm.

"you have been asking everyone to cool it"? Is this a self appointed position, or are you on the pt. pigeon police squad? Hmm.

I have rights too. And I say you are the joke.
 
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