Quote from ARogueTrader:
If the Loch Ness Monster, Little Green Men From Mars, The I have argued before, unchallenged in the argument, that it is not possible to have a conception in the mind without a corresponding belief about the reality of that concept.
Easter Bunny, Unicorns, Santa Claus, etc. have the quality of being:
Infinite, Eternal, The Supreme Being, Causeless, Absolutely Gracious, Omniscient, Absolutely Blissful, Omnipresent, Self Complacent, and existing without any opposite value then I believe in them too.
However, only God is defined as having all those qualities I listed.
"They all claim *absolute certainty* that god exists."
Faith is not a claim of certainty. That is why they call it faith in God.
Where certainty exists, there is no need for faith.
"I believe that most religious people are "stupid-irrational" i.e. simply lack logical reasoning skills, are gullible, or have insufficient You have your belief systems without external absolutely calibrated instrumentation providing a proof,knowledge or critical faculty to interpret evidence for reglion, or simply have not thought critically about their religious belief. "Stupid-irrational" people are either the type to believe in astrology, lucky charms, con tricks and other frauds, or the type who accept ingrained social norms without really questioning their truth."
You are entitled to your belief systems.
Once someone understands the concept of God, by virtue of their concept of what is "real" they immediately compare the concept of God to what they "believe" is real.
Most atheists have a concept of reality as only that which can be measured by physical senses and understood within an intellectual framework of relativistic logic.
Theists have a concept of reality that includes God which exists beyond the physical senses and relativistic logic.
The atheist uses physical senses and relativistic logic as the foundation of proof of their belief, yet has no objective check on the tools he is using to arrive at his conclusions. His conclusions are circular in nature, as he is using a tool to verify itself, which in science using a tool to calibrate itself with no external verification of calibration is not accepted as valid. There must be an objective check according to a scientific approach, yet there is this underlying assumption that our instrumentation (senses and intellect) are in calibration, when in fact they may not be!
This is why the atheist cannot prove the faithful wrong in their beliefs, as they can never know with mathematical certainty that the faithful don't experience God.
If you did deep enough within any man, you will find all their concepts rest on some belief system.
and the theists have theirs.
RS
