To IB Management

Here is the matching client source.

I don't remember where I found these sources. I tried looking for the link. Couldn't find it.

Note these are not my modified versions. My versions are somewhat proprietary in that they are built into my systems.
 

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J.

Of course it can be done. Def is aware of that. But he needs to be diplomatic, and the product manager for TWS is going to say:

"Hmmm, let's see, I have 400 requests for genuine improvements to TWS and IB, but this clown wants to make this business more honest and more accountable? Great, I am all for it, but not on my dime."

I vote for prophet to go and work for IB :D

:( nitro :(
Quote from prophet:

Most of this can be done using a third party TCP server and client application.

The server will…

Query the TWS API for current positions, get advised when trades are made.

Accept clients to connect and authenticate to a bound TCP port.

Broadcast information at regular intervals to clients.

The client will…

Connect to the server’s port, reconnecting repeatedly if connection is lost.

Display positions and trades.

Execute trades locally if desired.

I wrote a server that does most of this, allowing ordinary Telnet or clients to connect and receive system status. Its about 300 lines of C++ code. Any VT100 compatible telnet client can connect and authenticate, though it’s not encrypted yet. I need to get around to implementing SSH or route it through SSL.

I’ve attached the public domain code I modified to do this…

Anyone want to write a comprehensive app to do all of this, plus encryption?
 
Quote from nitro:

You are wrong. There are lots of people that go into chatrooms and get taken. There are lots of people that sell systems that are garbage. There are lots of people that call you on the phone with a "great tip." There are vendors that come to this site and don't know the first thing about trading and have set themselves up as "educators."

If you are unaware of this, you don't know what you are talking about.

nitro

No, I am referring to "management" of OPM; not system vendoring, subscriptions, etc...

I never referred to the mental-masturbation associated with trading chat rooms or system vendors... that's your forte, not mine.

You're correct in one respect. I have no experience with chat-rooms, high-fiving over taking a handle on a one-lot, something that you're obviously expert at.

1) If the client-subscriptions are a large % of your revs, then you're not going to make it as a trader.

2) Watching you trade for a week is not a statistically-valid sample. With luck, you'll perform poorly and subs will lose interest -- the downside is you hit it out of the park and your subs start trading with unrealistic expectations.


Amateur hour.


riskarb
 
Quote from nitro:
Of course it can be done. Def is aware of that. But he needs to be diplomatic, and the product manager for TWS isn't going to say,

Think of the advantages of us writing our own application to do this. It would be open source, so everyone could contribute their favorite feature. We could set up an official "track record" database server, trading competitions, or display trading signals and real time PnL in a IM chat client… things that might not make sense for IB to implement, but would be desirable for many on Elitetrader.

I vote for prophet to go and work for IB

Might work out well if I could devote enough time to making systems make money. I need to find a better programmer to help me write stuff like this so I can focus more on testing systems.
 
Quote from riskarb:

No, I am referring to "management" of OPM; not system vendoring, subscriptions, etc...
Hmm, so you came in here to talk about OPM and people that manage it in an instituitional setting? But this is a thread about chatroom operators and vendors and tipsters? I am not going to get into this with you because I do not want to burry the main track of this thread, but you have unresolved "issues."

I never referred to the mental-masturbation associated with trading chat rooms or system vendors... that's your forte, not mine.
My forte? What is my "forte?" Please, I am waiting. Do I know you? Again, I think you have "issues."

You're correct in one respect. I have no experience with chat-rooms, high-fiving over taking a handle on a one-lot, something that you're obviously expert at.
So then what the hell are you doing in this thread? If I made a post on extraterrestials that give advice in chatrooms, you would have felt compelled to respond? I still do not understand what you are getting at :confused:

1) If the client-subscriptions are a large % of your revs, then you're not going to make it as a trader.

2) Watching you trade for a week is not a statistically-valid sample. With luck, you'll perform poorly and subs will lose interest -- the downside is you hit it out of the park and your subs start trading with unrealistic expectations.

Amateur hour.

riskarb
Watching me trade for a week? Huh? Let me rephrase for you what the intent of this thread is so that you do not feel compelled to go off on some tangent again, whatever your motivation is, although you do not sound like a vendor, which is somewhat confusing:

I am proposing that IB to implement a "Spectating Accounts." They already do this for clients that are managing OPM. My goal is to suggest that IB extend the reach of that program to ANYONE THAT WANTS TO CREATE A REAL TRACK RECORD and to weed out the impostors that falsely promote themselves up as "educators."

Now, what part of that statement do you not understand?

nitro
 
Quote from nitro:


I want IB to implement a Spectating Accounts." They already do this for clients that are managing OPM. My goal is to extend the reach of that program to ANYONE THAT WANTS TO CREATE A REAL TRACK RECORD and to weed out the impostors that set themselves up as "educators."

Now, what part of that statement do you not understand?





riskarb
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The part in which you actually believe managing assets will evolve out of this ridiculous concept. If you're so eager to manage OPM assets:

1) Get a job trading for a wirehouse(sell-side), CTA or hedge fund <or> with an equity asset manager(buy-side).

2) Trade your account and get an audit for at least three years(preferably five) of exceptional-performance with an excellent Sharpe ratio.

This whole topic is a waste of time -- adding to the analytical-package and increasing reliability should be emphasized, not this, "To IB Management" rubbish.

riskarb

riskarb
 
Well,

That is perhaps true. But I have learned of a great service that IB implements for their institutional clients, and that alone was worth the price of admission.

I do not want to set myself up as anything, let alone someone that manages OPM - PUKE. My desire is to promote helping my profession to clean it up from the people that give it a bad name. IMO, the idea of a "Spectating Account" or something like it has great promise in this respect.

It seems as if your posts are genuinely trying to help, but if you are saying that I am wasting my time with this crap and it is better spent elsewhere, that is almost certainly true.

But I am the man that I am, and the moth goes to a "flame..."

nitro
Quote from riskarb:

The part in which you actually believe managing assets will evolve out of this ridiculous concept. If you're so eager to manage OPM assets:

1) Get a job trading for a wirehouse(sell-side), CTA or hedge fund <or> with an equity asset manager(buy-side).

2) Trade your account and get an audit for at least three years(preferably five) of exceptional-performance with an excellent Sharpe ratio.

This whole topic is a waste of time -- adding to the analytical-package and increasing reliability should be emphasized, not this, "To IB Management" rubbish.

riskarb

riskarb
 
Quote from nitro:

Ugh,

I see I am going to have to explain this a million times.

IF IT DOES NOT RUN AT THE BROKER, I CAN SIMMULATE ANY PART OF WHAT LOOKS REAL AND IS NOT IF IT RUNS ON MY MACHINE.
...
nitro

at paltalk mentor room that I enroll in, the call, stop and target was call & type before the price getting there, I don't think you can simmulate what going to happen before it happen.
 
J.

Quote from prophet:

Think of the advantages of us writing our own application to do this. It would be open source, so everyone could contribute their favorite feature. We could set up an official "track record" database server, trading competitions, or display trading signals and real time PnL in a IM chat client… things that might not make sense for IB to implement, but would be desirable for many on Elitetrader.

You are on to something here. This could be like the "Futures Truth" of realtime chatrooms and vendors.

This would RULE.

Might work out well if I could devote enough time to making systems make money. I need to find a better programmer to help me write stuff like this so I can focus more on testing systems.
LMAO. Yeah, I am in the same boat. I should stop dicking around with these morons and work on myself. I just cannot help myself sometimes...

nitro :cool:
 
Sounds tradeable...may I ask which service?

Michael B.


Quote from nkhoi:

at paltalk mentor room that I enroll in, the call, stop and target was call & type before the price getting there, I don't think you can simmulate what going to happen before it happen.
 
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