Title Trading

Quote from ThePropTrader:


But the good thing about these firms is that you don't put up your money and you get to trade, even if you are a bad trader, but they don't know that, and do get hired, you get some trading experience before they "let you go". ;)


What do you mean by this??

Prop firms let you trade the firms money, and if you lose it, its the Prop Firms loss - not the traders??

Do all Props work this way??
 
i know at swifttrade, if u lose money,u still can get the paycheck of last month. but my friend say in title trading, they will deduct the
lose money from u last paycheck, is that true for all title trading branch?
 
Quote from raistlin_trader:

i know at swifttrade, if u lose money,u still can get the paycheck of last month. but my friend say in title trading, they will deduct the
lose money from u last paycheck, is that true for all title trading branch?

True, if you are owed 5k, and you lose 1k and quit, you will get a paycheck for 4k. In my experience, this is also the way it works at swifttrade, as im sure someone will come along and tell you soon enough :P
 
Quote from ThePropTrader:

Here is a great idea you can flock to :)

Go form a group of traders, find the most cheapest prop accounts, and split the entire monthly profits among the group.

So let say you formed a group of 5 traders including yourself.

Let say at end of the month the entire group is up $10k. You split that by 5 and each trader gets $2k. :) Even though one of the traders is down $2k he still gets $2k. And everyone is a winner.

You can't be serious? What you are describing is welfare. Welfare is for the needy, not prop traders.

Everyone is a winner? How about the guy with the mortgage and a family to feed who made 4k and only gets 2k? Sure the numbskull who lost the 2k is a big winner but how long do you think it would take until he showed up laying in a ditch with an axe in the side of his head?
 
Quote from Red_Ink_inc:

You can't be serious? What you are describing is welfare. Welfare is for the needy, not prop traders.

Everyone is a winner? How about the guy with the mortgage and a family to feed who made 4k and only gets 2k? Sure the numbskull who lost the 2k is a big winner but how long do you think it would take until he showed up laying in a ditch with an axe in the side of his head?

I'm glad that someone else sees the stupidity in his idea....

Not often that you find socialist traders.
 
Quote from Red_Ink_inc:

....how long do you think it would take until he showed up laying in a ditch with an axe in the side of his head? ......


Thats harsh even by pirate standards. Remind me NOT to trade in the same office as you, I would never know when my time was up and it was ditch day.
 
Quote from ThePropTrader:

The people that teach traders how to trade are rich and are making well over $100k/year. Most of them are the owners of a prop office. You have to enjoy trading and do it because you like it and not because you want to get rich. With consistency money is just the by product. If you are consistent then the money will come no matter what. But if you get greedy then you become emotional and when your emotional you will make mistakes.

Prop trading dosnt work the way you think it does. A prop firm needs as much traders as they can get their hands on, especially good traders.

A trainer can make good money on his own, but he could also lose money like everyone else. Thats why prop firms / trainers hire and train traders in order to have a bigger advantage over the entire market. If a prop firm has 15 traders then the odds are in their favor that the firm will make a good profit. Even though a few traders will lose money, the losses will be offset by other traders winnings.

Here is a great idea you can flock to :)

Go form a group of traders, find the most cheapest prop accounts, and split the entire monthly profits among the group.

So let say you formed a group of 5 traders including yourself.

Let say at end of the month the entire group is up $10k. You split that by 5 and each trader gets $2k. :) Even though one of the traders is down $2k he still gets $2k. And everyone is a winner.

Much bigger advantage then trading alone isn't it? But for prop firms there is even a bigger advantage because they always keep half or more of "each" traders profits. Depending on what type of prop firm you are with.

Title Trading
Most Title offices payouts start at 50%
and there are few that start payouts at 40% and you work your way up.

Swift Trade
Swift payouts start at 35% and go up to 65% if you make $400k for them since you started you become a Master trader.

In my opinion, every new trader should start with 35% so they understand and get a feel how not easy it is to make money so they force them self to work harder and try to earn more profit so they can get that 50% payout.

But the good thing about these firms is that you don't put up your money and you get to trade, even if you are a bad trader, but they don't know that, and do get hired, you get some trading experience before they "let you go". ;)

Once you get let go by a prop firm, and apply to another firm, just don't say you worked at a firm before but got fired because they will not hire you. Don't even put it on your resume. But if you quit because you just didn't like the atmosphere then there is nothing wrong with that.

Better stop here, getting way off the topic. :)

ThePropTrader


2k a month does not seem enticing to endure all the stress to be a daytrader. Either you win big by yourself or lose everything, thats what daytrading is about. For 2k a month and job security you might as well work at wallmart.
 
well, from what i heard, title trading does not pay base salary at all. it 's all depends on personal performances. then they hv a payment structure. usually they start at 50% payoff.
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working in accounting for two years, i think the only reason title trading sign independent contracts with traders is Title trading is trying to "avoid" cpp. to its employees...
i am not sure how other private companies handle their employees cpp issue.
 
How long has Title Trading been around ?
more than 3yrs?

I heard that Title was actually a different company a couple years back ..... anyone know if thats true or not?

what was previous name ? anyone anyone

regards
V2K
 
Quote from Veteran2000:

How long has Title Trading been around ?
more than 3yrs?

I heard that Title was actually a different company a couple years back ..... anyone know if thats true or not?

what was previous name ? anyone anyone

regards
V2K

I have been there for a year and they have been title the whole way. I believe before they were affiliated with HLV but when they saw the smoke, they ran and created their own setup. That may not be 100% accurate though.
 
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