Time to bust the filibuster
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Biden says he supports reforming Senate filibuster in ABC News exclusive interview
He told George Stephanopoulos he wants to return to the "talking filibuster."
President Joe Biden on Tuesday said he supports changing the Senate’s filibuster rule back to requiring senators talk on the floor to hold up a bill, the first time he has endorsed reforming the procedure the White House has for weeks insisted the president is opposed to eliminating.
"Aren't you going to have to choose between preserving the filibuster, and advancing your agenda?" Stephanopoulos asked Biden in their interview outside Philadelphia.
"Yes, but here's the choice: I don't think that you have to eliminate the filibuster, you have to do it what it used to be when I first got to the Senate back in the old days," Biden said. "You had to stand up and command the floor, you had to keep talking."
"So you're for that reform? You're for bringing back the talking filibuster?" Stephanopulos asked.
"I am. That's what it was supposed to be," Biden said.
"It's getting to the point where, you know, democracy is having a hard time functioning," Biden told
Biden says he supports reforming Senate filibuster in ABC News exclusive interview
He told George Stephanopoulos he wants to return to the "talking filibuster."
President Joe Biden on Tuesday said he supports changing the Senate’s filibuster rule back to requiring senators talk on the floor to hold up a bill, the first time he has endorsed reforming the procedure the White House has for weeks insisted the president is opposed to eliminating.
"Aren't you going to have to choose between preserving the filibuster, and advancing your agenda?" Stephanopoulos asked Biden in their interview outside Philadelphia.
"Yes, but here's the choice: I don't think that you have to eliminate the filibuster, you have to do it what it used to be when I first got to the Senate back in the old days," Biden said. "You had to stand up and command the floor, you had to keep talking."
"So you're for that reform? You're for bringing back the talking filibuster?" Stephanopulos asked.
"I am. That's what it was supposed to be," Biden said.
"It's getting to the point where, you know, democracy is having a hard time functioning," Biden told
Turning the filibuster into a talking filibuster without a “sunset” clause will kill the filibuster but it will make the senate very slow. Slow is better than a dead end though.
As a note what I mean by sunset clause is the filibuster started way back in the Roman senate with Cato, I believe. There was no such thing as a filibuster but there was two rules he used to create one. 1. Once a Senator has the floor he did not have to relinquish it and 2. The Roman senate had a rule that all business unfinished by sunset was automatically tabled. So that is what Cato used to do. Pack a lunch, bring a jar for bowel movements and talk until sunset to stop whatever legislation he wanted.
Anyway down with this magical filibuster. Make these senators stand on their feet like Cato.
As a note what I mean by sunset clause is the filibuster started way back in the Roman senate with Cato, I believe. There was no such thing as a filibuster but there was two rules he used to create one. 1. Once a Senator has the floor he did not have to relinquish it and 2. The Roman senate had a rule that all business unfinished by sunset was automatically tabled. So that is what Cato used to do. Pack a lunch, bring a jar for bowel movements and talk until sunset to stop whatever legislation he wanted.
Anyway down with this magical filibuster. Make these senators stand on their feet like Cato.
The filibuster is a Senate inefficiency weaponized by Mitch McConnell after Obama won. It was used once a year until mcconnell decided to make that 80x a year once Obama was sworn in.
The selective outrage from hypocrite cons is having their cheating called out.
Absolutely. The filibuster was rarely used prior to the civil rights movement and has just accelerated in use since. It was never intended to be used with the frequency it is now.
And the argument that the filibuster is key to the senate’s identity as a deliberative body is joke. Deliberative does not mean to stop any and all legislation.
Slowing down the process is fine, too. Deliberate.
The filibuster, in its McConnell form, must go. In other words, it surely must violate the Constitution for any individual, even one empowered by the majority, to stop the working of the Senate, as ordered in the Constitution, completely and indefinitely. Though the Constitution makes the Senate responsible for its own rules, it would be illogical for it to have been intended that the Senate could make a rule allowing it to do away with its Constitutionally ordered functioning.
Now that the covid bill has passed Dems need to end reconciliation,if they do republicans would support ending the filibuster.Republicans biggest priorities are tax cuts and the military industrial complex.They can pass their tax cuts through reconciliation and can depend on enough democrats to spend on the military so they don't need to end the filibuster for their top 2 priorities.Democrat policies to help the people cant go through reconciliation so they are fucked.If Republicans needed to end the filibuster to get their tax cuts through they would be on board for ending it.
Democrats are straight suckers for letting Republicans play this game game on them all these years.When Obama first came into office he had The House and 60 Dems in The Senate.He could have ended the filibuster,passed gerrymandering and voter suppression laws,passed a much better health care law, made DC,PR,Guam and The Virgin Islands states etc putting a nail in the coffin for the republican party on a national level for decades to come.If Mitch had the ability to do that you can bet your house that he would.
Democrats are straight suckers for letting Republicans play this game game on them all these years.When Obama first came into office he had The House and 60 Dems in The Senate.He could have ended the filibuster,passed gerrymandering and voter suppression laws,passed a much better health care law, made DC,PR,Guam and The Virgin Islands states etc putting a nail in the coffin for the republican party on a national level for decades to come.If Mitch had the ability to do that you can bet your house that he would.
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