Tim Tebow or Cam Newton?

I also agree that running quarterbacks fail in the NFL. It really hard to look at Steve Young as a good example. He was a failure at Tampa and in the USFL. He was in the San Fran system which at the time essentially gave an unfair advantage. If you had put Marino, Elway or Kelly back there I wonder if the 49ers would not have won 30 consecutive games. To me this will always make the Montana and Young numbers very hard to look at. I mean during the strike season, they still went 13-2.
 
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You lost 90 lbs on a 5'6" frame? Jesus man.
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Why don't you two jackasses go running out onto the field of the next playoff game and duke it out on the 50 yard line. I'll throw 5 k into the hat for the winner.


Don Rennick King out:cool:
 
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Steve Young

Records and legacy


* Third-Highest Passer Rating, Career - 96.8[6]
* Most Rushing Touchdowns by a QB, Career - 43[7]
* Most Passing Titles, Career - 6 (tied w/Sammy Baugh)[6]
* Most Consecutive Passing Titles - 4 (1991–94)[6]
* Most Seasons With a Passer Rating Over 100, Career - 6 (1991–94, 1997–98)[8]
* Most Consecutive Games w/300+ Yards Passing - 6 (Young was the first QB to do this in 1998; Kurt Warner (2000) and Rich Gannon (2002) have since tied the mark)[6]
* One of only 4 QB's to lead the league in touchdown passes 4 times (tied w/Johnny Unitas, Brett Favre, and Len Dawson)[6]
* Most Passes Attempted, Playoff Game - 65 vs. Green Bay, 1995[9]
* Most TD Passes, Playoff Game - 6 (tied w/Daryle Lamonica)[9]
* Most TD Passes in one Super Bowl - 6[10]
* Most Rushing Yards by a QB, Postseason Career - 594[11]
* Most Rushing Touchdowns by a QB, Postseason Career - 8[11]

A left-handed thrower, Young was famous for his ability to "scramble" away from the pass rush. He has the third-highest single-season passer rating at 112.8 (set in the 1994 season), next to Indianapolis Colts' Peyton Manning (121.1 QB rating in 2004), and New England Patriots' Tom Brady (117.2 QB rating in 2007). However, among quarterbacks with at least 1,500 passing attempts, Young's career passer rating of 96.8 is the third-highest of any quarterback in NFL history. Aaron Rodgers is first (98.02), Phillip Rivers is second (97.03), Tony Romo is fourth (95.5), and Peyton Manning ranks fifth all-time (94.4) - through Week 13 of the 2010-11 NFL season. Young's career completion percentage (64.3%) is fifth-best all time among NFL quarterbacks.

In 1999, he was ranked #63 on The Sporting News list of the 100 Greatest Football Players. Young was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame on February 5, 2005; he was the first left-handed Quarterback to be so honored. He was enshrined August 7, 2005. His induction speech was given by his father, LeGrande "Grit" Young.

The San Francisco 49ers had his #8 jersey retired during a halftime ceremony against the New England Patriots on October 5, 2008. He was the 11th player in team history to receive this honor.
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Young was a pass first, run second qb. He put up a bunch of rushing yards but he wasn't the stereotypical running qb we see today. His passing wasn't the secondary option, his offensive line didn't use mobile linemen that is seen with the common running qb and he was an unbelievable passer. When I say running qb I am talking about the Cam Newtons who win national championships while finishing the season ranked 66th in passing yards.
 
The bottomline is Andrew Luck is better than both of them. Just as athletic, great speed, great arm and the kid is very bright. (Although it is a bit questionable why he'd return to school when he'd be the top pick in the draft).
 
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i was a 5'6" 229lb fullback in college. need a yard or two i was your man :D

and you?
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I knew it. You clearly got a case of the "little man's disease", a Napoleon Complex. That explains why every NFL QB is only 6'2 to you.

Like Flacco who is a bonafide 6'6.
 
Tebow!!

Newton is an idiot for listening to his greedy dishonest father and opting out of his senior year to enter the draft in a potential strike year. His value would have been more to stay in college and come out after the strike. That makes him the lessor of the two on sheer mental capacity too.
 
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