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Is a guy who made $200 million in the property and time share business lose it all in the futures markets trading the Commodex system over a 10 year or so period.

He's dead now but it just goes to show you.

BBG
 
Only worry about what has happened in the past few days.

They stay informed on what is motivating the market here and now and don't worry about anything else.

BBG

A famous quote:
There is no price to high to buy and no price to low to sell.

eSignal is still down.
 
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Hi Thunderdog, you seem hell-bent on this information. Why would this interest you? If it is of any help to you, I regularly sweep my ID accounts and invest the money elsewhere, so I do not compound indefinitely anyway. So I don't really know how much "% increase" I've actually totalled since January.

But, if you want a general measure of performance, I try to extract 50% of the daily range of any actively traded instrument. On Monday I pulled ~300%, Tuesday ~170%, and some days I make a lot less, I definitely do NOT always make lots like you say. But under the line, I try to average 50%, and am working very hard towards reaching higher ultimate goals.

Also, I have at least one "% return" reference which I always try to meet, and that is to make at least 100% return on initial per month. If I don't meet that, I go into "extreme revision mode" and totally redesign my game, to make sure I get back into the flow of the current market.

S

Those are rather lofty ideals. If you can achieve anywhere near these results, then you stand squarely at the top of the trading food chain. You say that you try to make "at least 100% return on initial per month." Now, I know that we cannot come to realistic conclusions by compounding such returns into the distant future. However, let us just compound for only a single year to arrive at an approximate annual return based on the numbers that you propose. And since you look for "at least" 100% per month, let us be conservative by doing our calculation at "only" 100% per month. And let us also reasonably assume that you have sufficient other funds from your previous trading and investment activities so that you do not have to dip into your trading account at least for the duration of one year. Let us also use a small, round starting number merely for illustrative purposes. Here, then, are the returns you are apparently capable of generating:

Starting capital: $10,000
Ending balance January 31: $20,000
Ending balance February 28: $40,000
Ending balance March 31: $80,000
Ending balance April 30: $160,000
Ending balance May 31: $320,000
Ending balance June 30: $640,000
Ending balance July 31: $1,280,000
Ending balance August 31: $2,560,000
Ending balance September 30: $5,120,000
Ending balance October 31: $10,240,000
Ending balance November 30: $20,480,000
Ending balance December 31: $40,960,000

This is an annual return of 409,500% compounded only monthly. The geometric mean, of course, would be calculated as follows: (((1 + 1)^ 12) -1) x 100.

I would venture to say that your actual returns are not quite as good as you suggest.
 
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The best traders come from sales and wholesale businesses where they understand profit and loss and risk.
A famous quote:
There is no price to high to buy and no price to low to sell.
eSignal is still down.
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You funny clown.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

Those are rather lofty ideals. If you can achieve anywhere near these results, then you stand squarely at the top of the trading food chain. You say that you try to make "at least 100% return on initial per month. [...]

Ending balance December 31: $40,960,000
Man... Not one of these again... :D

You're totally living in cloud-cuckoo-land with your calculations. Let's get real:

1) I told you I don't compound.
2) Compounding doesn't work because of liquidity (your calculations are ridiculous).
3) I said "return on initial", not return on total capital.
4) Get off your horse, it isn't uncommon for a scalper to make 100% on initial. I know a few that do.

S
 
why are so many of you responding to scientist? this is the same moron who wrote 400 page long posts claiming holding ES overnight in a $4k account was NOT high leverage and then tried to justify it by quoting near-verbatim from EMH. this, naturally, after claiming EMH was crap.

the guy does not trade, he knows less than nothing about trading, hell, i doubt he knows his left pinkie from his right big toe. just put him on ignore and save your effort for discussions that might actually benefit something other than one sod's lonely ego.

and if you really must engage with the twit, please stop quoting his entire posts so those of us who have him on ignore don't have to wade through his oceans of chicken droppings.
 
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why are so many of you responding to scientist? this is the same moron who wrote 400 page long posts claiming holding ES overnight in a $4k account was NOT high leverage
Holding ES overnight in a $4k account? LOL that is one of the most hilarious things I've ever read here... :D

Thanks for making me laugh again though, you're a riot.
 
Quote from WaveTrader2004:

If you know what is going on I applaud you.

But so far you have not made any contribution to anything I have seen on this site. A bit like Prechter and Miner telling everyone to short the market all the way up.

As for BSAM well what can you say he is just another lost sole wandering around in the wilderness and really has nothing constructive to offer except innuendo.

Well boys I don't really care anyway - this was just another day in my life finding out what is on the otherside of my trades.

:-)))
BBG

do you even remember when you first became such an arrogant prick...?!

Ice
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Quote from Dado Wallener:

the guy does not trade, he knows less than nothing about trading, hell, i doubt he knows his left pinkie from his right big toe. just put him on ignore and save your effort for discussions that might actually benefit something other than one sod's lonely ego.
Yeah, I know absolutely nothing about trading. As I've clearly demonstrated in TTW's room in the last couple of days... :cool:

Who's your daddy?
 
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