Tiger's porn star lover shows more emotion than Tiger did in his speech...

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He feels like shit because he got caught...not because he realized while he was doing it that it was wrong...

If he had not been caught, he would probably be fucking some bimbo right now...

That isn't internal change, or a crisis of conscience.

He won't change, he will try to "behave" differently, but he will absolutely go back to the smack because he never hit any meaningful bottom.

Sure it was an embarrassment, but did he really feel financial pain? Did his wife divorce him?

Did he lose all of his endorsements? Did he get HIV like Magic?

No, his contrition is forced, not genuine. His lack of real emotion is a tell, a huge tell...
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I told you, he had that outpouring of emotion 2 or 3 weeks ago and its at a stage now where thats not natural; not that he doesn't still hold regret. Theres something about him, maybe his Asian side, that suggests to me that he fell from grace and isn't a hopeless playboy like the sense I get of Michael and A'Rod.
And, he's not all that muscular if you've ever seen the kind of muscular thats possible with steroids. He's just about at where a guy who works out regularly would be.
 
Oh, so he had some cathartic outpouring of emotion 2 or 3 weeks ago, and now he has no natural emotion?

So tell me, when Tiger first burst on the scene and won his first major, and we saw all the emotion, the fist pump, the cursing, the tantrums...which continue to this day on the golf course...all that emotion over winning a golf tournament...but when this even comes up, he goes in front of the camera and is stilted and no emotion?

Dude is/was on performance enhancing drugs. He has all the symptoms.

Or do you also believe that Barry Bonds wasn't juiced?

Talk to people who know about roids and juice, dude is/was juiced...no questions. He is a cheater, he will/would do anything to win, and juicing is just another of the things he rationalized...

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I told you, he had that outpouring of emotion 2 or 3 weeks ago and its at a stage now where thats not natural; not that he doesn't still hold regret. Theres something about him, maybe his Asian side, that suggests to me that he fell from grace and isn't a hopeless playboy like the sense I get of Michael and A'Rod.
And, he's not all that muscular if you've ever seen the kind of muscular thats possible with steroids. He's just about at where a guy who works out regularly would be.
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Oh, so he had some cathartic outpouring of emotion 2 or 3 weeks ago, and now he has no natural emotion?

So tell me, when Tiger first burst on the scene and won his first major, and we saw all the emotion, the fist pump, the cursing, the tantrums...which continue to this day on the golf course...all that emotion over winning a golf tournament...but when this even comes up, he goes in front of the camera and is stilted and no emotion?
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Yea, I never liked the arm pumping and all but that, like the 2 or 3 weeks ago reference, was spontaneous and in the moment. Now, its history and he and his wife probably have thought of every
angle to this thing by now and its at a stage where rationality
takes over from emotion. They have to decide what will become of their relationship and whatnot. Of course it was a shock at first but shocks go away. I can imagine when he gets out on the course again with all the straight arrows like Mickelson some part of him will want to crawl in a hole. No pun intended.
 
So his first appearance in public, in front of his mother, and supposedly friends, and they guy was as wooden as you can get...

You know, one of few athletes I have respect for is now dead.

Ken Caminiti is the only athlete I can think of who came clean about his using performance enhancing drugs...who didn't have to because he got caught.

He came out with the truth long before others were being forced into it, as part of his attempt to stay clean from drug abuse.

You tell me why Tiger, a known cheater and liar, would not have used performance enhancing drugs?

Because of his "strength of character" or "strong moral fiber?"

Horseshit...

The only real emotion Tiger showed at all when he went off on the media in anger...

...and he has only himself to blame.

If Elin doesn't want the paparazzi, divorce Tiger and move back to where she came from.

If Tiger wants a fully private life, then go play golf, and don't try to make money off of selling a false image.

The assholes want publicity when it serves them, then want to turn it off when it is painful?

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Yea, I never liked the arm pumping and all but that, like the 2 or 3 weeks ago reference, was spontaneous and in the moment. Now, its history and he and his wife probably have thought of every
angle to this thing by now and its at a stage where rationality
takes over from emotion. They have to decide what will become of their relationship and whatnot. Of course it was a shock at first but shocks go away. I can imagine when he gets out on the course again with all the straight arrows like Mickelson some part of him will want to crawl in a hole.
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So his first appearance in public, in front of his mother, and supposedly friends, and they guy was as wooden as you can get...

You know, one of few athletes I have respect for is now dead.

Ken Caminiti is the only athlete I can think of who came clean about his using performance enhancing drugs...who didn't have to because he got caught.

He came out with the truth long before others were being forced into it, as part of his attempt to stay clean from drug abuse.

You tell me why Tiger, a known cheater and liar, would not have used performance enhancing drugs?

Because of his "strength of character" or "strong moral fiber?"

Horseshit...

The only real emotion Tiger showed at all when he went off on the media in anger...

...and he has only himself to blame.

If Elin doesn't want the paparazzi, divorce Tiger and move back to where she came from.

If Tiger wants a fully private life, then go play golf, and don't try to make money off of selling a false image.

The assholes want publicity when it serves them, then want to turn it off when it is painful?
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Nothing has been proven that he takes drugs. You can't just assume he did and argue your point with the conviction you do, and, he's not really big like Conseco or Bonds. If you know anything about golf you know what sends a drive for distance isn't muscle its club head speed and you do not need muscle for that. There are driving distance contests where the contestants are average sized and even smallish guys who drive farther than Tiger. Its not football or baseball. Its 2am here, I'm out. Keep fightin the good fight.
 
Long ago they used to make the same argument about lifting weights and baseball...

...then the steroids proved that they do in fact improve performance.

You do know the number one benefit of steroids, right?

Keeping you on the playing field and healing from injuries faster...improving mind body coordination, giving a person more energy, a mental edge, etc.

...now tell me, why wouldn't Tiger cheat to win?

Seriously, why wouldn't a cheater and liar in his marriage also cheat and lie and lie to win majors?

This guy isn't a hero at all, he is a con man who has you fooled.

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Nothing has been proven that he takes drugs. You can't just assume he did and argue your point with the conviction you do, and, he's not really big like Conseco or Bonds. If you know anything about golf you know what sends a drive for distance isn't muscle its club head speed and you do not need muscle for that. There are driving distance contests where the contestants are average sized and even smallish guys who drive farther than Tiger. Its not football or baseball. Its 2am here, I'm out. Keep fightin the good fight.
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Long ago they used to make the same argument about lifting weights and baseball...

...then the steroids proved that they do in fact improve performance.

You do know the number one benefit of steroids, right?

Keeping you on the playing field and healing from injuries faster...improving mind body coordination, giving a person more energy, a mental edge, etc.

...now tell me, why wouldn't Tiger cheat to win?

Seriously, why wouldn't a cheater and liar in his marriage also cheat and lie and lie to win majors?

This guy isn't a hero at all, he is a con man who has you fooled.
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I wouldn't want you to be a juror in a trial where I was being set up by falsified evidence.
 
So you are suggesting Eldrick is being setup by false evidence?

1. Photos of "new body"
2. Behavior on the course (anger---roid rage).
3. Association with and treatment by a doctor (Tony Galea) known for pushing human growth hormones.

Look, the PGA doesn't drug test, so it is like the Baseball Players who didn't get caught using roids...but we suspected they cheated, and most of the major cheaters have come forward and admitted their cheating (except Barry Bonds...another very arrogant athlete) so why should Eldrick go to the trouble of denying he used performance enhancing drugs? Coming off admitting he is a cheater and a liar, give me a good reason to believe he is telling the truth when he says he didn't cheat golf through the use of PDFs.

The reality is Eldrick is/was driven as hard to break Jack's major's records as he was to suck the tits of skanks and hoes. Why you think he wouldn't also cheat to win on the course makes zero sense to me...


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I wouldn't want you to be a juror in a trial where I was being set up by falsified evidence.
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