This war is illegal!
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It might help, with your current sickness. idiotitous
After all of this you still do not understand that the reason for the UN and thier disapproval is becouse of an alternate agenda that we cought on to. You talk about the people and the lives of those in Iraq being hindered when it was France and Russia that was at the very heart of this. Proof will come out in due time and I have a feeling that you will still not understand that it is us who has the people of Iraq in our best interests.
That is how the US works we like to help people.
Kofi is going to be able to explain this (corrupt UN OIL for Food).
Purchases so outragous that its going to fry the world perception of the United Nations as just another TIN HORN Scandle riddled organization.
Kofi will have to RESIGN, if he doesn't then in a few months the UN will go down like the TITANIC.
Purchases so outragous that its going to fry the world perception of the United Nations as just another TIN HORN Scandle riddled organization.
Kofi will have to RESIGN, if he doesn't then in a few months the UN will go down like the TITANIC.
I suspect this will be a scandal that will make Enron look like a parking ticket.
>>Where are the weapons?
and
The UN must lead the search >>
During several years with the 'co-operation' of the Iraqi regime the UN inspectors were unable to complete the task of unearthing all the WMD.
And now the Monster Saddam loving mob of moronic critics and collaborators are impatiently calling out that the US hasn't found anything as yet ?
Come off it please, wake up to your illogical thinking process.
Give them time and they WILL unearth plenty.
At least that is how I see it. Anyone of those impatient, illogical ,clowns on this site care to put your money where your mouth is and make a bet about this ?
I would think you would be swamped with takers.
freealways
and
The UN must lead the search >>
During several years with the 'co-operation' of the Iraqi regime the UN inspectors were unable to complete the task of unearthing all the WMD.
And now the Monster Saddam loving mob of moronic critics and collaborators are impatiently calling out that the US hasn't found anything as yet ?
Come off it please, wake up to your illogical thinking process.
Give them time and they WILL unearth plenty.
At least that is how I see it. Anyone of those impatient, illogical ,clowns on this site care to put your money where your mouth is and make a bet about this ?
I would think you would be swamped with takers.
freealways
Revisionist thinking
Credibility gap widens on Iraq's weapons
Friday April 25, 2003
If Geoff Hoon thinks questions about Iraq's mysteriously missing weapons of mass destruction will go away, he is seriously mistaken. Disarming Saddam was the prime casus belli. But where now is the evidence justifying that decision? "I am in no doubt that the threat is serious and current, that he [Saddam] has made progress on WMD, and that he has to be stopped," wrote Tony Blair last September in a foreword to the government's Iraq dossier. Iraq's arms were a "threat to the UK national interest", affording Saddam "the ability to inflict real damage upon the region and the stability of the world," he warned. In case the urgent nature of the menace was still unclear, Mr Blair added for good measure that chemical and biological arms were held at a maximum state of readiness. "Some of these weapons are deployable within 45 minutes of an order to use them." That line was later used to maximum hysterical effect by the pro-war press.
For Mr Hoon now to try to disown last autumn's official early warning of a 45-minute countdown to Armageddon, as he did in a Radio 4 interview yesterday, simply will not do. The dossier was produced by a government of which he is reportedly a prized ornament. To assert, as he did, that Saddam did not resort to such weapons because allied action prevented him from issuing the orders is frankly incredible, teetering on absurd. For Mr Hoon to say that WMD cannot now be found because they were hidden at the last moment contradicts the previous claim that Iraq was positively, obstreperously bristling with them. It is also an unintended, deserved vindication of the UN's Hans Blix. Rather than launch into a war, all Mr Blix wanted was more time to complete his inspections. This he was flatly denied by, among others, the same Mr Hoon who, despite almost total US-British physical control of Iraq, now says - wait for it - that more time is needed to find the weapons.
The signal failure so far to locate a warm-ish peashooter, let alone a smoking gun, does not mean Mr Hoon et al made it all up. But the longer this situation obtains, the stronger the suspicion that, egged on by the US, they greatly exaggerated the WMD threat posed by Iraq and will not admit their error. That is one reason why Mr Hoon's (and the Foreign Office's) present, US-induced edging away from resumed UN-led inspections is bad policy and bad politics. Only the UN - and not un-named, supposedly "objective" countries hand-picked by the Pentagon - can do this job convincingly. Nor is Iraq the only place where credible verification will be insisted upon.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,943080,00.html
Credibility gap widens on Iraq's weapons
Friday April 25, 2003
If Geoff Hoon thinks questions about Iraq's mysteriously missing weapons of mass destruction will go away, he is seriously mistaken. Disarming Saddam was the prime casus belli. But where now is the evidence justifying that decision? "I am in no doubt that the threat is serious and current, that he [Saddam] has made progress on WMD, and that he has to be stopped," wrote Tony Blair last September in a foreword to the government's Iraq dossier. Iraq's arms were a "threat to the UK national interest", affording Saddam "the ability to inflict real damage upon the region and the stability of the world," he warned. In case the urgent nature of the menace was still unclear, Mr Blair added for good measure that chemical and biological arms were held at a maximum state of readiness. "Some of these weapons are deployable within 45 minutes of an order to use them." That line was later used to maximum hysterical effect by the pro-war press.
For Mr Hoon now to try to disown last autumn's official early warning of a 45-minute countdown to Armageddon, as he did in a Radio 4 interview yesterday, simply will not do. The dossier was produced by a government of which he is reportedly a prized ornament. To assert, as he did, that Saddam did not resort to such weapons because allied action prevented him from issuing the orders is frankly incredible, teetering on absurd. For Mr Hoon to say that WMD cannot now be found because they were hidden at the last moment contradicts the previous claim that Iraq was positively, obstreperously bristling with them. It is also an unintended, deserved vindication of the UN's Hans Blix. Rather than launch into a war, all Mr Blix wanted was more time to complete his inspections. This he was flatly denied by, among others, the same Mr Hoon who, despite almost total US-British physical control of Iraq, now says - wait for it - that more time is needed to find the weapons.
The signal failure so far to locate a warm-ish peashooter, let alone a smoking gun, does not mean Mr Hoon et al made it all up. But the longer this situation obtains, the stronger the suspicion that, egged on by the US, they greatly exaggerated the WMD threat posed by Iraq and will not admit their error. That is one reason why Mr Hoon's (and the Foreign Office's) present, US-induced edging away from resumed UN-led inspections is bad policy and bad politics. Only the UN - and not un-named, supposedly "objective" countries hand-picked by the Pentagon - can do this job convincingly. Nor is Iraq the only place where credible verification will be insisted upon.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,943080,00.html
Weapons of Mass Destruction...
From Southern Studies
Liters of anthrax stockpiled by Iraq, according to Bush's State of the Union Address: 25,000
Supposed liters of botulinum Iraq possessed: 38,000
Supposed tons of sarin, mustard, and VX nerve agent: 500
Supposed number of munitions to deliver chemical agents: 30,000
Percent of "top weapons sites" so far inspected by U.S. forces: 90
Number of chemical agents and weapons found: 0
Pounds of banned chemical weapons currently housed in an Army depot in Anniston, Alabama: 46,830,000
Labour MPs challenge Blair over Iraq's WMDs
By Andy McSmith, Severin Carrell and Paul Lashmar
25 May 2003
Tony Blair is facing growing political pressure to explain the mystery of Iraq's missing weapons of mass destruction. With no solid evidence yet that there are any chemical, biological or nuclear weapons in occupied Iraq, more than 70 MPs, including 53 Labour MPs, have signed a Commons motion challenging him to prove his claim that they were ever there in the first place.
Britain's participation in the invasion of Iraq is to be condemned as illegal by eminent international lawyers at a conference in London next weekend. The conflict raised two issues, said Professor Philippe Sands QC, a member of Cherie Booth's Matrix chambers. "First, did the Security Council authorise the use of force, and the answer to that is no. And were we misled about the presence of weapons of mass destruction? Apparently, yes."
In the US the CIA has begun an inquiry into whether its intelligence was faulty, but it is not thought that MI6 will do the same. Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, wants intelligence chiefs to be made to answer to Parliament as other senior civil servants have to.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=409381
Something needs to turn up in Iraq...
Yeah right, CIA to investigate? under who's orders? but again who knows..pigs fly don't they?
What a friggin scam
From Southern Studies
Liters of anthrax stockpiled by Iraq, according to Bush's State of the Union Address: 25,000
Supposed liters of botulinum Iraq possessed: 38,000
Supposed tons of sarin, mustard, and VX nerve agent: 500
Supposed number of munitions to deliver chemical agents: 30,000
Percent of "top weapons sites" so far inspected by U.S. forces: 90
Number of chemical agents and weapons found: 0
Pounds of banned chemical weapons currently housed in an Army depot in Anniston, Alabama: 46,830,000
Labour MPs challenge Blair over Iraq's WMDs
By Andy McSmith, Severin Carrell and Paul Lashmar
25 May 2003
Tony Blair is facing growing political pressure to explain the mystery of Iraq's missing weapons of mass destruction. With no solid evidence yet that there are any chemical, biological or nuclear weapons in occupied Iraq, more than 70 MPs, including 53 Labour MPs, have signed a Commons motion challenging him to prove his claim that they were ever there in the first place.
Britain's participation in the invasion of Iraq is to be condemned as illegal by eminent international lawyers at a conference in London next weekend. The conflict raised two issues, said Professor Philippe Sands QC, a member of Cherie Booth's Matrix chambers. "First, did the Security Council authorise the use of force, and the answer to that is no. And were we misled about the presence of weapons of mass destruction? Apparently, yes."
In the US the CIA has begun an inquiry into whether its intelligence was faulty, but it is not thought that MI6 will do the same. Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, wants intelligence chiefs to be made to answer to Parliament as other senior civil servants have to.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=409381
Something needs to turn up in Iraq...
Yeah right, CIA to investigate? under who's orders? but again who knows..pigs fly don't they?
What a friggin scam
how low will we stoop?
Bush Official: Iraqi "Intellectual Capacity" Justified War
The Bush Administration is backtracking -- hard -- from their pre-war claims that Iraq had stockpiles of biological and chemical arms.
It doesn't matter whether or not Iraq actually had any of the toxins in their possession, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs John Bolton said today. What counts is that Iraq had the "intellectual capacity" to build these uncoventional weapons.
As Global Security Newswire notes, this directly contradicts statements made by the president during the build-up to war.
In his March 17 televised address, Bush said, "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." (emphasis mine)
Posted by noahmax at May 23, 2003 04:19 PM
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000433.html
ok ok ok, leme get this straight,: it's knowing about the weapons the reason to invade and kill?
Why don't just kill every person on earth? you know they may look up how to build a nuke bomb on the net. Hey we don't need evidence. Who's gonna stops us?
Bush Official: Iraqi "Intellectual Capacity" Justified War
The Bush Administration is backtracking -- hard -- from their pre-war claims that Iraq had stockpiles of biological and chemical arms.
It doesn't matter whether or not Iraq actually had any of the toxins in their possession, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs John Bolton said today. What counts is that Iraq had the "intellectual capacity" to build these uncoventional weapons.
As Global Security Newswire notes, this directly contradicts statements made by the president during the build-up to war.
In his March 17 televised address, Bush said, "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." (emphasis mine)
Posted by noahmax at May 23, 2003 04:19 PM
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000433.html
ok ok ok, leme get this straight,: it's knowing about the weapons the reason to invade and kill?
Why don't just kill every person on earth? you know they may look up how to build a nuke bomb on the net. Hey we don't need evidence. Who's gonna stops us?
Quote from trader556:
Why don't just kill every person on earth? you know they may look up how to build a nuke bomb on the net. Hey we don't need evidence. Who's gonna stops us?
no insults from the ultra-right contingent on this one...?
maybe at least a sanctimonious Bennett-ism or two?
